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Which Induction Conversion Motor is Better


By Kemper73, Section Homebrewed Electricity
Posted on Wed May 12th, 2004 at 02:39:20 PM MST
I have a choise of several moters to convert,, which one is better

Hi all,,,

I have been looking at the induction conversion projects for quite a while, and plan on doing one very soon,, I have started building a sandia savonius turbine and hope to expand it to around 7' tall and 20" in diameter.(right now it is 2' tall). I would like to have a direct drive system and since induction conversions are usually good for low speed cutin speed it thought it would be good..

So,,I'm currently working at a large industrial plant that makes Nylon, So there are alot of surplus things sitting around for the taking..

I have access to

  1. V , 240V and 575V single and 3 phase motors
  2. /4 , 1/2 , 1 , 1.5 , 2 , 3 HP motors
  3. , 1750 , 1150 , possibly lower RPM motors,
And I currently have 12 magnets that are 1" x 2" x 0.5" that I bought from wonder magnet..

Which motor would be the best to convert.

I was concidering if the turbine works good, is to purchase one of the Windy Boy grid tie inverters that are made to be battryless and voltages as high as 600V

Thanks

Jeff

Which Induction Conversion Motor is Better | 4 comments (4 topical, 0 editorial)

Re: Which Induction Conversion Motor is Better (none / 0) (#1)
by zubbly on Wed May 12th, 2004 at 05:19:31 PM MST
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hello Kemper73!

which one to choose eh?

OK, since you already have magnets 1 inch wide, i suggest you take apart the larger motors and have a good look at the lamination cores.  In many cases, you will have a stator which consists of 36 or 48 stator slots and teeth. If you are planning to rewind the stator, i will assume you will want as many poles as possible. 36 stator slots will give you a maximum of 12 poles for 3 phase and 48 slots will give you a maximum of 16 poles. the coils span will be 1-4 ( coil sits in slots #1 and #4 ), and the coil therefore spans 3 stator teeth. This is the width that the magnets should be. if the magnets end up slightly narrow for the 3 tooth span, it will be alright. But the magnets should not be wider than the 3 tooth span or you will create some cancellation.

if you intend to use the existing winding, i suggest that you pick a motor with a higher name plate voltage rating as this will help you meet your needed charge volts with less rpm. you will also be limited to the number of poles of the winding, ( 1725 is a 4 pole motor and 1165 is a 6 pole motor). you will have to count the number of teeth spaned ny 1 coil. this is the proper width that the mags should be. if your coils end up spaning 2 inches or more( probably what they will be with a stock winding) you can always mount 2 mags tight side by side to give you the mag width that you will need.

just a suggestion, when you find a motor and know the measurements, please post again and i will try to help based on the information that you have.

have fun!---zubbly



Re: Which Induction Conversion Motor is Better (none / 0) (#3)
by Jerry on Wed May 12th, 2004 at 11:16:19 PM MST
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WOW zubbly lots of good info. Kemper73 what is the voltage and wattage you desire?

                          JK TAS Jerry

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Re: Which Induction Conversion Motor is Better (none / 0) (#4)
by Kemper73 on Thu May 13th, 2004 at 11:10:01 AM MST
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Well,,, My final goal is to produce around 700W or power from my 7' tall savonius turbine that I am going to build,,,

If I dump into a 24 or 48V battery pack,,, my amps are going to be really low because of the coil resistance,, But if I were to use a Windy Boy inverter I can run it at 500V direct...

I just talked to the boys in the plant,, and I am going to get a 1hp, 575V, 3 phase, 1750RPM induction motor,, I think it will be strong enough,, expecially since it is an explosion proof model,,,

Thanks for the help all

Jeff


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Re: Which Induction Conversion Motor is Better (none / 0) (#2)
by franknbuger on Wed May 12th, 2004 at 06:02:57 PM MST
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Hello.  Look at the stories about the mini mills.They are very simple to convert,no coil rewinding.Just pop in some washers and all-thread,with small neos and you have an alt. I made one in about 4 hrs and Im slow.This might be a good first conversion  project for you.Tring to rewind motors with new coils can be a real job.My Mini-Mill put out 28vdc @ .5 amp turning slow,with some work it might weld.     Frankenbuger



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