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NEWBIE to charging a battery with PM DC generator


By CmeBREW, Section Homebrewed Electricity
Posted on Fri Feb 25th, 2005 at 02:09:44 AM MST
I know I need a power diode in the circuit, but do I also need a power resistor in series?

NEWBIE to charging a battery with PM DC generator | 5 comments (5 topical, 0 editorial)

Diodes with DC generators (3.00 / 0) (#1)
by BT Humble (bt_humble@bigpond.com) on Thu Feb 24th, 2005 at 07:13:00 PM MST
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No, just the diode.  If the generator "motors" when you connect it up, you've got the diode the wrong way around.

BTH



Re: Diodes with DC generators (3.00 / 0) (#5)
by CmeBREW (smke833f@hotmail.com) on Sat Feb 26th, 2005 at 03:19:17 PM MST
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Thanks for the info. -much appreciated

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Re: NEWBIE to charging a battery with PM DC gener (3.00 / 0) (#2)
by Ungrounded Lightning Rod on Thu Feb 24th, 2005 at 08:25:09 PM MST
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do I also need a power resistor in series?

Depends on what the generator shaft is connected to.

If you have it connected to a windmill prop
you don't need a resistor.  The windmill will
spin up (given enough wind) until the voltage
is up to where it starts charging the battery
(cutin).  Then as the wind rises more the charging
current goes up - and the current makes the genny
fight speedup of the prop.

The result is that the voltage at the battery stays
the same, the prop only speeds up a little (corresponding
to the extra voltage drop across the internal resistance
of the genny and the wiring due to the increased current),
and the extra force from the wind fighting the prop and
genny turns into extra current charging the battery.

You design a furling system (such as an angled pivot
or hinge on the tail mount) to make the mill turn
away from the wind when the charging current is
approaching the max the genny can handle without
taking damage from the heat generated by excessive
currents.  (It takes a little time to heat it up,
so the genny won't fry before the mill turns away
from a gust.)

You also add some "dump load" when the
battery gets full, to drain away the extra energy that
would otherwise overcharge and damage the battery.
(You don't want to disconnect the genny from the battery:
That will take the load off the prop and let it overspeed,
tearing it apart even moderately high winds.  When you
have to unhook the genny from a load you short its output
to make it act as an electric brake and keep the prop
nearly stopped.)

If you have it connected to a WAY oversize gas
engine or something that's running too fast,
you'll need some kind of current limiter or
reducer (such as a series resistor).  The
drag from the genny won't slow down the prime
mover, so the genny's induced voltage isn't
effectively regulated by the battery.  Thus
the current can become excessive without some
external limiter.



Re: NEWBIE to charging a battery with PM DC gener (3.00 / 0) (#3)
by wooferhound (tim((NoSpamAt))wooferhound.com) on Thu Feb 24th, 2005 at 09:53:45 PM MST
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Better to use a bridge rectifier which is made from 4 diodes, you will double the power going to the battery compaired to a single diode.

)}=- W o o f -={(



Re: NEWBIE to charging a battery with PM DC gener (3.00 / 0) (#4)
by RatOmeter on Fri Feb 25th, 2005 at 07:47:25 AM MST
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Not it's a PM DC generator as the OP stated.  If it's putting out DC native, he'll just need the single diode to prevent the battery from motoring his generator.

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