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Reclaim wire


By MelTx, Section Mechanical
Posted on Tue Mar 08, 2005 at 06:47:27 PM MST
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  Hello I made a 9 coil stator from fiberglass resin using 60 turns 14 guage wire with twelve 2x1x1/2 mags, there doesnt seen to be much output.Ive done delta & wye. I get up to 70 vdc but less than one amp.Just going to start over,can you remove the casting material without melting the orignal enamel insulation and reclaim the wire? Or should i have a go at it with the ruger,and give it a funeral in the scrap yard? Thank you for your help.
Reclaim wire | 3 comments (3 topical)

Re: Reclaim wire (3.00 / 0) (#1)
by Flux on Tue Mar 08, 2005 at 12:05:31 PM MST

Don't scrap anything yet, let's sort out some facts.

How is it connected, it can't be delta and wye which is it.

At what speed do you get 70v. What battery voltage are you aiming for?

How are you measuring that current, with 70v open circuit and wire that thick your figures just don't add up.

You won' be able to reclaim the wire.

Flux



Re: Reclaim wire (3.00 / 0) (#2)
by MelTx on Tue Mar 08, 2005 at 02:51:35 PM MST


     Flux  

  How is it connected, it can't be delta and wye which is it. ?
I tried both the 3 phase delta and then the wye wiring methods from the charts found at this board.

At what speed do you get 70v ?
This was a peak turning by hand with just a sudden pull. But turning by hand steady, it will show12 to 14 vdc into the batt bank, but only 2 or 6 hundred milliamps.Less than 1 full amp.

What battery voltage are you aiming for?
At this time I am trying for 12vdc into a 315 ah bank.

How are you measuring that current?
The current was measured by placing the dmm in series...from the pos side of the rectifer to the pos side of the wire going to the bank.....funny thing I can place an analog meter graduated for 5 hundred ma and it slams that to the peg...

I really dont get whats going on. would you suggest what it might be.


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Re: Reclaim wire (3.00 / 0) (#3)
by Flux on Wed Mar 09, 2005 at 01:35:26 AM MST

Seems to me as though there is trouble with your meter or the way you are using it. Are you using the correct input terminals, the high current usually has a separate terminal. Make sure it is switched to dc 10A ( or 20A on some).

Check it by using it to measure the current of a lamp fed from the battery, a 60w lamp at 12v should show 5A.

Try these tests:-

  1.  Short circuit the output of your rectifier and make sure the alternator is stiff to turn, you will only be able to turn it very slowly if it is working right.
  2.  Connect your rectifier to the battery without your meter and try the same again. It will turn easily at low speed but when you exceed the battery voltage it should again become hard to turn. If this is so, then introduce your meter on dc current range and make sure it is equally hard to turn.
If with the meter in circuit it turns easily you have a blown fuse or duff meter.

You could make a shunt for the analog meter by connecting about 2 ft or so of #14 wire across its terminals, you could then calibrate it with the battery and a 60w lamp or something that takes a known current and use that to check your alternator.

Don't do anything silly to the alternator until you have sorted this problem, when you know how it is performing is the time to think about changes.

If you give me all the alternator details I will try to do some calculations on its output.

You have 12 poles, 2 x1 x1/2  is that single or dual rotor?  9 coils 60 turns #14 wire.

Let me know the size of your discs,  the thickness, inside and outside dimension of one coil.  

Flux

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