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blueEnergy @ MIT


By gibsonfvse, Section Wind
Posted on Wed May 18, 2005 at 05:37:42 PM MST
blueEnergy came to MIT for wind tunnel testing and a lecture (note: long, many pics)

blueEnergy is a non-profit wind turbine company that currently does work with microwind power in Nicaragua. Some of you may remember a post from cofounder Mathias Craig some time ago. Well, I had the great honor and pleasure of hosting Mathias Craig, his associate director (and brother) Guillaume Craig, and his technology director Darin Bird at MIT last week for wind turbine testing and a public lecture. Mathias is an MIT alum (Civil and Environmental Engineering S.M. 2003), and I wanted to bring him here to talk about what it's like to work in the "real world," where academic knowledge can be difficult to implement.

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On Monday (May 9), we hopped into the Wright Brothers Wind Tunnel (ca. 1914), which has a 7x9 foot elliptical test section. blueEnergy is currently flying 8-foot Piggott-style machines in Nicaragua, but of course an 8-foot machine wouldn't fit in the tunnel. They opted for a 4-foot Piggott-style machine "on loan" from Ian Woofenden of Solar Energy International.  Mathias had this to say about the testing in his report to the blueEnergy email list:


Monday afternoon we had the opportunity to test a 4 ft diameter machine in the MIT Wright Brothers wind tunnel.  That was a blast. Dick Perdichizzi, the operator of the wind tunnel, was very generous with his time and helped us set up the turbine for testing. Interesting fact: the wind tunnel draws 2 megawatts of power and Dick has to call the local powerplant to warn them when he is going to fire it up.

The machine we tested was much smaller than what we make in Nicaragua but we decided to use it because our machine would not fit in the tunnel.  The machine was a Hugh Piggott design and on loan from Ian Woofenden of Solar Energy International and Hugh himself.  We had some difficulty acquiring a good battery on campus to provide a load for the turbine and Guillaume and I ended up running around Cambridge in search of a car shop - typical blueEnergy style.  We did find an auto repair place and convinced them to rent us a new battery for a few hours.

The tunnel work was quit fun and the results are summarized in the "MIT_windTunnel_4ft.xls" file.  This gist of it is that we produced power curves under two scenarios: one with the tail clamped to prevent furling, and one with the tail free to pivot.  In both cases we took measurements as the turbine was speeding up and as it was slowing down because of the differing behaviors in these two approaches.

Several people have questioned the scientific merit of the measurements given the size of the turbine relative to the tunnel and given that wind tunnels don't accurately reflect real-world conditions.  Of course both of these criticisms are valid and we advise all to take the results with a large grain of salt.  We did these tests largely to take advantage of the unique opportunity to use the MIT wind tunnel and to gain some practice making power curves.

You can see the results in the spreadsheet file that I've posted to my webspace, "MIT_windTunnel_4ft.xls".  Just some excerpts from it:




In the third image, you can clearly see where the turbine started to furl.

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On Tuesday, May 10th, the three guys hosted a public "lecture" on campus.  They covered many things: the social conditions in Nicaragua that led to its poverty, Mathias' and Guillaume's mother's linguistics work with the Rama natives (blueEnergy now has a turbine flying in the Rama community), blueEnergy's business aspects and partnership, the turbine setup and wiring, and more.  They were recording the lecture on video, but the camera failed and destroyed the footage.  It's still possible that they may salvage something or post the presentation itself somewhere; maybe.  The main purpose of the lecture, though, was to give us academic types an idea of how to help other people when one has to learn everything from a new language to a new way of living -on top- of all that business-like and mathematical stuff.  This event was probably the highlight of my semester, as I've been wanting to bring Mathias back to MIT for over a year.  And now for the real goodies: pictures and video clips!


The guys and tunnel operator Dick Perdichizzi check out the turbine.


Drilling a hole for mounting the turbine in the tunnel floor (see a short video clip here [AVI, 1.8 meg])


Aerodynamicist Dr. Mark Drela (of Daedalus and Decavitator fame) peeks in to see what's going on.


The tunnel mouth.


The turbine mounted in the tunnel.


"We're firing it up!"  The tunnel's motor draws 2 megawatts, so MIT's cogeneration plant must be warned in advance before it is turned on.  Before MIT's cogeneration plant was built, the load would cause voltage levels to drop across Cambridge (so I heard from Dick, if I heard correctly).  The tunnel's fan is a constant-speed variable pitch propeller.  Apparentl 400 miles per hour is possible, but the noise would probably propagate throughout Cambridge as well!


The turbine running.  See a short video clip here (AVI, 2.3 meg)


The turbine furled.


The WBWT control panel.  See a clip of tunnel operations here (AVI, 3.9 meg)


Guillaume and Darin in MIT's Killian Court.


Dinner at Legal Seafoods in Kendall Square!

I hope all of you enjoyed this; sorry for the very long post.  More pictures and a poster can be seen on my MIT webspace at http://web.mit.edu/~csequeir/www/be/.  Special thanks to: MIT Student Pugwash, Students for Global Sustainability, Design that Matters, MIT Energy Club, AID-MIT, Technology and Policy Student Society, Public Service Center, Edgerton Center, the Department of Aeronautics and Astronautics, the Department of Mechanical Engineering, and MIT's Large Event Fund.

blueEnergy @ MIT | 8 comments (8 topical)

Re: blueEnergy @ MIT (3.00 / 0) (#1)
by gibsonfvse on Wed May 18, 2005 at 11:40:15 AM MST

Just a note on the first picture:  From left to right: Mathias, Darin, Guillaume, and Dick.



Re: blueEnergy @ MIT (3.00 / 0) (#2)
by chux0r on Wed May 18, 2005 at 03:50:16 PM MST

2 megawatt motor... running for, what, 15 minutes?  How long will you have to run the turbine in the wild to make that 500kWh back? :) :)



Re: blueEnergy @ MIT (3.00 / 0) (#3)
by JW on Wed May 18, 2005 at 05:10:52 PM MST

Good show Gibsonfvse,

 Very glad to hear that you had a blast :)   .

I noticed in your post that you spoke of constructive critisim. I think that you made an excellent point to those of us who put there heart and soul into things we honestly believe in. Your posting is a compliment to the board.

 chux0r,

 I work with 30hp 3phase 460vac motors. it ontly makes sense that the starting torgue on such a polyphase motor, would be high. 400mph (wow) would be one hell of a load factor,(just how many cfm is that?) also, interesting point, on the variable pitch capability of the blading-set. With the motors that i run at null speed(1756rpm) with no load, its actually quite reasonable, something like 1.0hp(746watts=power=consumed)) while the 500lbs spinning assembly encouters the load produced by the lathe cutter bit. in other words while the assembly is up to speed, minimal horsepower load in registered, on power factor reqment's. But ya start up torque is ecessive for 3 or 4 seconds.

 Having eFun

JW  

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Re: blueEnergy @ MIT (3.00 / 0) (#4)
by XRay on Thu May 19, 2005 at 04:27:36 AM MST

Thanks for sharing. I like people who are willing to share there findings especially this kind of stuff. It must have been a cool and educational day.
If you just had a little bit more time to test maybe differed wing/generator types and some small commercial wind generators (small yacht types), it might have given a broader picture of the overall performance of a standard Piggott-style wind generator.

Did you ever consider building wind generators like this from local stuff? I mean scrape in Nicaragua? Project like this are most successful if the locales can built/repair it with local stuff.

Also consider that people in pour countries have differed thoughts about survival versus luxury. A few years ago I spoke someone, he installed solar powered water pumps and refrigerators in Africa. A few months after installing those nice projects he wend back to see if the people where still happy with there new water pump. Only the pump and control box was in place, doing nothing, the rest of the parts where gone!! He found the solarpanel on a house connected to a 12V TV. The battery was soled.
Well, so mush for this project, luxury overruled the need for fresh water :(
I hope blueEnergie project dont end up like that.

Greeting,
Ray

Sorry for my wired writing, my English is awfully rusty.

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You dont know how little you know.
till you know enought to know that you still know nothing



No apology necessary (3.00 / 0) (#5)
by wdyasq on Thu May 19, 2005 at 07:03:02 AM MST

Ray,

Your information and thoughts were relayed well.  Thank you for giving insight that few others will ever think about.

Ron
Adventure is just bad planning." -- Roald Amundsen
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Re: blueEnergy @ MIT (3.00 / 0) (#6)
by gibsonfvse on Thu May 19, 2005 at 09:40:21 AM MST

Ray,
  Indeed the turbines flying in Nicaragua are built from local materials.  They use local trees for the blades ("man, they give problems", they told us) and they buy their pipe in either Managua or Bluefields and bring it down by boat.  I wish I had a video of the lecture; they talked all about the local materials put to use and the challenges they presented.

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Re: blueEnergy @ MIT (3.00 / 0) (#7)
by XRay on Thu May 19, 2005 at 02:17:21 PM MST

Oeps I fogot to look at the blueEnergy website, I feel stupid, I wish I could delete the question about local materials.
Anyway: blueEnergy website looks good, people looking real happy. I wish I could join a workshop, but that's not going to happen, I miss my kids after just a day.

Greetings,
Ray

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You dont know how little you know.
till you know enought to know that you still know nothing
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Re: blueEnergy @ MIT (3.00 / 0) (#8)
by ghurd on Fri May 20, 2005 at 07:41:57 AM MST

I have heard similar stories.

One place expected all the parts to be replaced,
for free because the first parts were free,
and they were kind of suprised when they were
not replaced at all, after requesting a bigger
system than the first time!

A place in Central America was amazed when
informed bullet holes were not covered under
the PV warrenty.

G-

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