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Small permanent magnet generator


By Experimental, Section Wind
Posted on Thu May 19, 2005 at 11:29:35 PM MST
Experiment with ceramic magnets and small generator

      This is a small 4 - 1/2" diameter gen, utilizing ceramic magnets from a hardware store -- It was built last winter, out of pure boredom and curiousity and dug out of it,s hiding place to share, with all, what can be done at low cost !!
      This never was a serious project, just something to do durring a cold and rainy couple of days !  
      The "drum", is a piece of 4" pipe , with a disc welded to it, a 1/2" bolt and all trued in the lathe -- While the 12 ceramic magnets are 7/8 X 1-7/8 X 3/8 at about $1.89 for two, at the local hardware store..
     The coil assembly, is from a PM type alternator, used on many small Kabota engines , used in mowers and tractors -- something someone gave me, and is unmodified..



     This is the PMA, on the lathe ,driven at625 RPM -- producing 8.06 volts..



     Here at 855 RPM , we see 11.62 volts -- not bad, but I hoped for over 13, at lower RPM , and as it was moveing around in the lathe, due to the jury rig I had it held in there with -- I thought it wise to quit there !!



     Here are the components, showing the magnet drum , coil assy  and the Dump load controller, I built, thanks to Hugh Piggot,s free schematics -- it even works, and if I can build it,  Anyone can..



     Another view of the components and the three mounting holes, for a future prop, if I ever get back to it...



    And, a picture of my Hornet mill, highly modified but seldom ever turns because of those trees seen in the background --- This was also an experiment, before moveing it to my cabin --- it really works there !!
    I hope you enjoy this and it inspires you to build something, and share it with us all --Bill H..
Small permanent magnet generator | 4 comments (4 topical)

Re (3.00 / 0) (#1)
by Jerry on Thu May 19, 2005 at 05:55:47 PM MST

Hi Bill H...

Yep those littel projects are fun once and awhile.

About the Hornet and there blades. I fly a Hornet also. It is very lazy. It seldom spins compaired to my plastic "Jerry Blades".

What mods have you made to the Hornet?

                           JK TAS Jerry  

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Re: Re (3.00 / 0) (#2)
by Experimental on Thu May 19, 2005 at 06:11:23 PM MST

       Hello Jerry,  If you look close, you may be able to see the square tail boom, made of thinwall sq tube and the tail itself is aluminum , insted of steel as supplied -- Both the boom and tail were very heavy !!
    I also made an aluminum doubler plate for the front of the blade to hub bolts, and UHMW washers above and below the swivel bracket, makeing movement into the wind smoother and quicker -- then to be sure it maintained a good ground, you can see the upper locking collar, is made of bronze, with a contact brush !!
    The brush assy, I plan to show in a later post (some folks don,t like contact brushes !!)       Have a good day, Bill H...

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Re: Small permanent magnet generator (3.00 / 0) (#3)
by veewee77 on Fri May 20, 2005 at 12:46:15 PM MST

It appears to me from what I can see in that picture, that you have 6 coils and 12 magnets.  Is this correct?  Also, it appears that the core in the coils looks to be wider than the magnets.  Is this also correct?

If so, then that may be why your output is not as much as you had expected.  If those magnets are in there in n-s-n-s-n-s fashion, you have two n across the same coil at the same time for short periods of time during rotation.  Not a good deal.  However if the magnets are in there in nn-ss-nn-ss fashion, that might not be so much of a problem.  Ideally, you want magnet "a" to be completely clear of the core of the coil before magnet "b" starts it's move onto the coil.  Otherwise, they will cancel each other out a bit.

If I am wrong on this, I am sure there are others who will correct me!

Guys?

Doug



Re: Small permanent magnet generator (3.00 / 0) (#4)
by Experimental on Fri May 20, 2005 at 08:27:00 PM MST

      Good evening Doug -- Actually the mags and the pole shoes are the same width, but the magnets are 1-7/8" long , but I had originally intended to build deep narrow coils, useing the laminated portion of several of these coil assemblys!!
      Little did I know how difficult it would be to find more of them --But as I explained, in the beginning of this article -- I was bored and just wanted to build something, and do a little experimenting , SO, I used what I had !!
      If you look closer, you will see that the whole assy. is three times deeper than need be -- there is also 3/32 gap, between the mags and the coils -- heck, I,m surprised it works as well as it did !!
      You are right about the number of coils, and mags and after fooling around with it a little more today I saw 13.8 at around 1000 RPM -- but couldn,t hold it there, as the way I had it hooked up to my lathe I was afrade it would become a deadly projectile !!!
      I,ll get back to it later this fall or winter, but now I,m leaving to go work on my cabin and it,s back under the work bench !!
     I,m thinking it would be great for charging batteries, and driven by a 2HP lawnmower engine at about 1000 RPM , but in it,s present form, not much use for a wind machine --- It did keep me amused for a few days though -- and thanks for your input and have a good weekend !!  Bill H.......


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