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DC Motors from treadmill


By cr8zy1van, Section Wind
Posted on Thu Jul 21st, 2005 at 02:48:21 PM MST
Would this be worth my while?

Am I correct in assuming that computer tape drive motors and treadmill motors are similar? I read somewhere that DC PM motors are used mostly in those 2 applications.

I happen to have access to several old treadmills, for very cheap ($15). Unfortunately I don't think that I can get a clear look at the motors without ripping into the treadmill, and I don't think that the supplier will like that very much. If these will work I plan on running out tonight and picking up as many as I can truck away in my jeep. Unless someone convinces me otherwise.

Anywhere else I can scrounge those up? What about tossed air conditioning units?

DC Motors from treadmill | 6 comments (6 topical, 0 editorial)

Re: DC Motors from treadmill (3.00 / 0) (#1)
by richhagen (richhagen (a t) Juno.com) on Thu Jul 21st, 2005 at 09:18:58 AM MST
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I think that the treadmill motors are likely to be permanent magnet DC motors because of the variable speed feature, and the air conditioning units are likely to be AC induction motors.  Rich
'A Joule saved is a Joule made'


Re: DC Motors from treadmill (3.00 / 0) (#2)
by hiker (hiker.wild[at]yahoo[dot]com) on Thu Jul 21st, 2005 at 02:27:35 PM MST
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might want to buy just one for now [treadmill]..
some of those treadmills don"t have pm motors in them...
WILD IN ALASKA


Re: DC Motors from treadmill (3.00 / 0) (#3)
by ibedonc on Thu Jul 21st, 2005 at 04:16:56 PM MST
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I have 3 of them , easy to test with , but in the long run no real power out of them



Re: DC Motors from treadmill (3.00 / 0) (#4)
by zap (bell47g5a at comcast dot net) on Thu Jul 21st, 2005 at 04:29:45 PM MST
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From what I've noticed, about 2/3 of treadmills out there are PM.

The AC one's seem to be the skimpy whimpy looking treadmills that look like they would be better off as a pet treadmill.  Look for ones that shout out quality and you'll probably score a PM motor along with some nice bearings, high density particle board, electronic parts, etc, etc.

Also be sure and google search this site because there are a few posts about treadmill motors such as this .  In that post is a treadmill motor that can still be bought for $9.99 +s/h.

Good luck!
zap



Re: DC Motors from treadmill (3.00 / 0) (#5)
by Norm (peppysue@suite224.net) on Thu Jul 21st, 2005 at 07:34:33 PM MST
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  Like this,
http://www.fieldlines.com/story/2005/3/23/225230/317
 or this?
http://www.fieldlines.com/story/2005/3/11/193835/821
       good results...nothing eartshaking but
  fun!
                 ( :>) Norm.

( :>) Norm


Re: DC Motors from treadmill (3.00 / 0) (#6)
by nothing to lose (nothingtolose175 at yahoo.com) on Mon Jul 25th, 2005 at 01:11:30 AM MST
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If you have access to a steel recycler look for DC motors from industry equipment.
Better and cheaper if you can find them :)

I played with treadmill motors, and the ones I got are DC, mostly around 90-180Vdc ones. They do work, but they have brushes to wear out, probably many will be brass bushings not bearings ect. They can be usable, but better motors exist and can be found fairly easy cheap.

At the recycler I have been getting industrial DC motors for cheap! I pay about 12-16 cents a pound for motors.
Some of these are brush types but they are large heavy duty brushes. Most have nice large bearings too, nice for long life.

I just got some EFKA DC 3 phase motors for a couple dollars each from old sewing machines (probably T-shirt company) and these have no brushes to wear out and nice heavy bearings to last a long long time. Probably a ready built gennie just add blades :)
The Efkas I bought from a new place I found right before I went to Canada to visit Picmillian so I haven't tested much yet. On the milling machine at 300rpm only 2 wires I light a quartz driving light about half brightness, at 900rpm I thought I was going to blow it out. That seamed pretty good power for only 2 of 3 wires and connted direct, no rectifiers!
Using all 3 wires on rectifiers and a 12V dc fan as a load, the fan spins about as fast as I spin the motor by hand. Pretty slow, but it's making more power than most the treadmill motors I played with so far and at a far lower speed. I'll test it better soon.

Now that I am home I plan to get it up and flying hopefully later this week. Just got home about 5AM Sunday (other places to go on the way home)

Personnaly I am not messing with treadmills much, I will take the motors when I find them nearly free but that's about it. I am just finding too many larger better DC motors at the scrap yards right now. I got 2 larger brush types with heavy bearings also when I picked up the other Efkas before I left. They were from some kind of pumping equipment, one is complete and working, the other I have to make an end for since one end was cast into the pump it was mounted on. Same motors so if nothing else I have extra parts for one if needed. For a bunch of motors at the scrap yard (about 7 including 2 smaller ones) I paid about $10  at this new place I found. So if you have the places to look and the time it's worth the effort to do so.
 Smaller scrap yards are probably better than the big ones for getting stuff, it just depends really if they want to mess with it or let you poke around yourself.

Most motors have a name plate that will show it's AC or DC, amps, volts, HP etc..  I have found some it's missing from or can't read. Often I can tell by just touching a steel wrench or such to the case, if it feels sticky then it's probably a DC permanant magnet motor, but they aren't always sticky. I don't think the EFKA motors are?
 If they can be spun and you have a meter handy or maybe a test light etc.. easy to test if they make power. Alot of what I am getting is mounted to equipment and I have to take it off before I can spin it, so if I can't read the plate I try to test with a steel wrench for stickyness on the case. But I buy most motors now that I find anyway as long as they look powerfull and usable for something. I use AC motors for things too.

And for those interested, Canada was great, and Pic is a great guy too. We did not do much with gennies but lots of other stuff and he builds great log homes, which I learned alot about building myself now. Will post about it elsewhere latter probably.
.
nothing to lose

Spelin and tpying are my strong points, not electronics.



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