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Monday Sept 26


By DanB, Section Remote Living
Posted on Tue Sep 27, 2005 at 03:24:57 PM MST
Windmills diesels stairs dogs cameras and pizza!

Today was a fun/busy day for the most part.  We worked on several different projects.   To start with, some may recall that last spring (may 8 I think) my digital camera (a 2 year old Sony MVC CD 500) fell off a workbench and died.  Its one of those that keeps its pictures on a small CD.  I seem to have fixed it yesterday first thing, by simply dropping it about 3' onto a thin carpet.  Dropping electronic devices is, for me - one of the best bets when it comes to repairing them.  The height from which they get dropped though, and the surface they hit is critical.  Perhaps I'll write a book about all this.  Tube amps, for expample - should usually be dropped only about 3" onto a hard wooden surface.  At any rate, the camera is fixed so I shot lots of pictures!

George showed up early and we finished building the stairs that I'd started over the weekend.  Another little bit of the shop done - now were down to a little shelving, and some finish work upstairs.

Once the stairs were done George set to winding coils for a stator.  This will be a 9' machine, we'll be bringing this to an SEI (Solar Energy International) wind turbine seminar on Guemes Island in Oct.  This one is wound just like a 10' machine, with 140 windings per coil - although were using #17 gage wire.  These days I usually put #16 gage in the 10' machines.  To fit #16 wire I made the hole a bit smaller and the mould a bit larger.  So these coils are a touch on the small side, but I think it'll give us a good cutin speed and reasonable resistance for a 9' machine.  If it's too slow we'll open the airgap up a bit.

Here are the 3 phases wired together. I like to wire each phase one at a time.  Each one is 3 coils in series.

Then we used duct tape to hold the coils in exactly the right position in the mould.  There are lines in the mould that show the path of the magnets, so we can use the mould to be sure the coils are positioned about perfectly.

Once they were all taped in place we used the little fiberglass squares and super glue to hold it all together.

With the superglue/fiberglass on there, the uncast stator is strong enough that we can remove it from the mould.

We cut fiberglass rings 15.5" in diameter with 6" holes in the middle that fit the mould.  There will be one on each side of the stator to provide some strength, and to make sure that none of the wires in the coils can break out of the finished stator.

We got the stator done about mid afternoon.  It spent about 1 hour in the mould.  I like to pull the lid while its still a bit soft, it makes it easier to trim off excess resin.  Then I leave it in the mould till it cools so there's no warpage.

While George was winding coils I primed the machine.  We welded this one together about 2 weeks ago.  They have serial numbers now!  (this helps me keep straight which parts go with which machine and keep notes about exactly what we did, how it worked etc... for each machine).  This one is #32.  #1 was Dave's machine at the caboose.  I prime these with an automotive 'self etching' primer which seems to work nicely.

The paint came out nicely.  We use acrylic enamel with a hardener - it blows away the spray paint we used to use.  Powder coat would sure be nice though...

Scott came over around 4:00 with a radiator from an old Scout.  We figured it might work nicely with the little diesel generator we made - hopefully without the need for a fan.

The generator is just bolted to two pieces of angle iron which are driven into the ground near the generator.  We put it high above the engine hoping that it would thermosiphon.

Bonnie will also have to live with this thing... here Scott is teaching her to start it.  Lots of smoke...  I think this engine could use some adjustment, although once running and up to temp it seems to be running pretty clean.

Here's what its putting out...  about 60 amps into the battery and the AC end is unloaded at about 125V.  The battery that it's charging is quite full at this time or the amperage would be up a bit more.  But we ran it for over an hour last night.  The radiator/thermosiphon worked out great.  The stator never warmed up, and the rectifiers only got slightly warm.  I think its quite an efficient charger.  The AC end will easily pull 1500 watts it seems - even while it's charging a battery.  I have to say, this is the most powerful 2.5hp engine I've ever known.

Matt and Daphne showed up around 7:00 with pizza as usual.

And folks came over to eat the stuff!

The dogs tested the stairs for us - they seem to work fine.  They're steep - we decided they are stairs though because the dogs come down foward,  not backward.  Had they come down backward we'd have called it a ladder.

And there was a bit of dancing although that had to stop, Sage (a blue healer) would not permit that...

Monday Sept 26 | 11 comments (11 topical)

Re: Monday Sept 26 (3.00 / 0) (#1)
by bob g on Tue Sep 27, 2005 at 09:49:09 AM MST

that has turned out to be a darn cool little genset (diesel)

as for 2.5 hp.....

the way i figure it there is some big differences in hp rating of various kinds of prime movers, when clearly there should not be.

you little diesel is clearly able to develope all of its rated 2.5 hp and maybe a bit more, and...

a comparable 2.5 hp gas engine, only delivers 2.5 hp at sea level, at low humidity, high atmospheric pressures, while screaming at 3601 rpm, with your lip held just right, and then for only a second or two.

too bad there isnt more truth in advertizing when it comes to hp ratings.

kind of like air compressor motors, with their phony peak hp ratings.

i guess that is the peak hp the motor is able to produce at one second before the windings burn up.

anyway i digress...

just wanted to say good job

bob g



Re: Monday Sept 26 (3.00 / 0) (#2)
by Peppyy on Tue Sep 27, 2005 at 11:54:01 AM MST

Nice to have the photos back again and it is really great to see a bit of dirt and dust under the workbench. I have been trying to follow your progress and I must say it never ceases to amaze.

I could weigh in on the laddar, stairs discussion but it seems that you have found the correct answer by pure scientific deduction. Best of luck with the new shop.

I guess I had better start finishing a couple of my projects since 90% of my wood is in, or stacked anyway.
Pep
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Re: Monday Sept 26 (3.00 / 0) (#3)
by electrondady1 on Tue Sep 27, 2005 at 03:31:12 PM MST

hello danb, what droping technique would you recomend for my old pioneer sterio amp?
 i think you ought to do a bit of a jig yourself, thats a wonderfull work space you've made.

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Re: Monday Sept 26 (3.00 / 0) (#4)
by BoneHead on Tue Sep 27, 2005 at 04:49:55 PM MST

Yeah, that is really cool. You inspire ideas man!

About your book "100 different ways to drop stuff and fix them":

Can you tell me how far to drop my scanner and what to drop it on? I would really like to post some sketches...lol!



Re: Monday Sept 26 (3.00 / 0) (#5)
by Volvo farmer on Tue Sep 27, 2005 at 05:52:28 PM MST

I just can't get over the difference between that shop and the old one. My shop usually looks like your old one did, but once in a while I clean it up, put everything away and it looks more like your new one.

Do you find you "think" differently in the new space? When all my benches are clean and all my tools are put away, I just seem to have a different mindset than when I'm confronted with the usual clutter.

Glad to see the Monday posts back.... You guys missed the Bronco game though!

Volvo Farmer




Re: Monday Sept 26 (3.00 / 0) (#6)
by MattB on Tue Sep 27, 2005 at 06:18:12 PM MST

We didn't all miss the game. I made it home to catch that final 2/5 of play time. (that is how football works isn't it? five fifths unless it goes into overtime?)


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Re: Monday Sept 26 (3.00 / 0) (#8)
by jimjjnn on Thu Sep 29, 2005 at 09:10:29 AM MST

Yep, 5 fifths of Jack Daniels
Denver,CO
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Re: Monday Sept 26 (3.00 / 0) (#7)
by richhagen on Wed Sep 28, 2005 at 12:13:12 AM MST

I've tried that drop method to.  I use it along witn the pound it method.  Sometimes it works, and sometimes you end up with lots of spare parts and stuff for the junk parts box.  I'll have to look for the book when its published so that I can refine my methods.  Great to see everyone out at the new shop.  Rich
'A Joule saved is a Joule made'


Re: Monday Sept 26 (3.00 / 0) (#9)
by ronsmith on Sun Oct 02, 2005 at 07:08:31 PM MST

Dan, is your diesel a minipetter? It looks exactly like the one I bought recently. It is a3.5 mini-petter from India. I belted it to a delco 70amp alt. to charge my batt. bank. It takes a few tries to start on waste oil and smokes heavy until it gets up to temp. I think the cylinder has to get hot before it will run. It charges my 4bat. bank in about 30min. I had it hooked to a radiator w/12v fan but have since hooked to a 40gal water tank. The thing is built like a tank! I was wondering if I added a small generator would it be too much of a load for it?
ron smith


Re: Monday Sept 26 (3.00 / 0) (#10)
by DanB on Wed Oct 05, 2005 at 03:14:53 PM MST

Hi Ron - yes, this is the 2.6hp 'mini petter' we got from George at utterpower.com.  I believe it's basicly identical to your 3.5 hp one, just rated at lower rpm.  It is a really nice/well built little motor.

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Re: Monday Sept 26 (3.00 / 0) (#11)
by ronsmith on Wed Oct 05, 2005 at 06:35:44 PM MST

Yeah, I got my petter from George also. His website is a treasure-trove of info on these motors. I also ordered his cd since this is my first experience with a diesel. I filtered some waste oil through my toliet paper filter and ran it in the petter. It seemed to run fine, almost no smoke.Cool!
ron smith
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