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Powder coated rotors??


By amiklic1, Section Mechanical
Posted on Mon Jan 30, 2006 at 06:53:33 PM MST
A way to avoid polyester in rotor manufacturing

I am thinking about the way of building a rotor by welding a steel strip (1.5 mm is thick enough, I think) at the outer diameter of the rotor (apply weld between the magnets just at the inner side or all around outher side, so the magnets can not fly away when centrigugal forces are large, and of using electrostatic powder coating for protection of the metal surfaces instead of using resin. A company near me is doing powder coating (electrostatic), and the warranty for that treated surface is 10 years. It's not expensive (maybe the same price as if going to use resin), so why not try?
Does anyone have some experience with that kind of metal protection?
Powder coated rotors?? | 6 comments (6 topical)

Re: Powder coated rotors?? (3.00 / 0) (#1)
by scottsAI on Mon Jan 30, 2006 at 01:01:07 PM MST

Hello amiklic1,

I used powder coating (electrostatic) back in 90.
Worked out Great for me.
The steel box was epoxy painted, the stuff chipped and let the box rust.
The paint was not conductive, had problems with EMC. (Noisy RF signals)

The powder coating looked like shiny metal, was conductive!
Did NOT chip, was great. Couple choices in finishes. I liked shiny.
Back then the cost was couple times the cost of the epoxy paint.
Was well worth it for my application.
Had coated 600 boxes 10" x 10" x 2" inside and outside.
I tried to get the boxes made with stainless steel, cheaper than steel + coating.
Vendor charged a lot for machining the SS box, excessive tool damage.
After the first batch, would not do any more.

Nice idea, what is the actual cost? What finish choices?
Have fun,
Scott.



Re: Powder coated rotors?? (3.00 / 0) (#2)
by tecker on Mon Jan 30, 2006 at 03:40:38 PM MST

  Sound like  a good plan you might want to use resin though to protect the edge of the mags at high speed . Also  will balance easier drill a hole and add some wieght



Re: Powder coated rotors?? (3.00 / 0) (#3)
by Aelric on Tue Jan 31, 2006 at 09:34:18 AM MST

Powder coat is definatly tougher than any other kind of paint I have seen.  I work for Cooper (lighting, circle aw, crescent) we use powder coat on all our boxes, gets baked on.  Very tough stuff once it gets thru the oven, dunno if it costs more but would be very tough.

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Re: Powder coated rotors?? (3.00 / 0) (#4)
by SmoggyTurnip on Tue Jan 31, 2006 at 10:43:50 AM MST

I would be worried about the heat destroying the magnets.
The sooner you start the longer it takes.


Re: Powder coated rotors?? (3.00 / 0) (#5)
by amiklic1 on Tue Jan 31, 2006 at 12:16:58 PM MST

Yes, I was thinking of that, too. I'm gonna ask the guy who works in the powder-coating company what temperatures they are using in the process. I can order high-temp neos, but it'll cos a bit much than ordinary.

I'll for sure try to find other good ways of coating the rotors, as resin isn't what I'm happy with.
Free energy? Yes, please!



Re: Powder coated rotors?? (3.00 / 0) (#6)
by nothing to lose on Wed Feb 01, 2006 at 01:55:24 AM MST

Powder coating is great for allot of things, I don't think you actaully want to powder coat magnets though. At Harbour Freight they normally have a coating gun system for around $50-$75. Also caswell.com sells them and also the powders.

Basically like painting, clean and prep surface then spray. But then you have to bake it. That gets hot but I forget the temp off hand. You can use a normal electric house stove oven for this. The powder dust is like grain (think food grains) and can explode like grain dust. Not a big problem, you just don't want to spray next to an open fire or use a gas oven with flames for baking parts.

I think the temps are way too hot for Neos as I recall. Although you could do all the metal parts.

For alot of uses powder coat is far better than paint, but the powders still cost more than paint. You also have the cost of baking it, electric oven or heat lighting. They do make portable heat lamp units for baking outside an oven, like for large parts.

If you had a large enough electric stove oven (or build your own) the cost to powder coat parts is not too bad really if you have enough use to buy the $50-$75 spray unit.

Having work done is like anything else though, it costs alot more than doing it yourself normally.
.
nothing to lose

Spelin and tpying are my strong points, not electronics.



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