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the strength of a magnet


By northkorea, Section Wind
Posted on Sat Oct 07, 2006 at 10:41:07 PM MST
how to calculate how strong my magnet is

how do u measure the strength of a magnet and how do i find out and calculate the how strong a magnet is
the strength of a magnet | 13 comments (13 topical)

Re: the strength of a magnet (3.00 / 0) (#1)
by wdyasq on Sat Oct 07, 2006 at 05:25:09 PM MST

u could start with a search on google and learn how to properly puncuate and not use letters for common words like u do you think this is an unpaid research department for you or are you just plain lazy is what i want 2 no

Ron
Adventure is just bad planning." -- Roald Amundsen



Re: the strength of a magnet (3.00 / 0) (#2)
by northkorea on Sat Oct 07, 2006 at 08:49:30 PM MST

thats cause i use msn messenger a lot so i make it simple so so i can type fast
its just a habit

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Re: the strength of a magnet (3.00 / 0) (#6)
by finnsawyer on Sun Oct 08, 2006 at 08:39:25 AM MST

Well, get out of the habit.  Show some respect for your readers.  You expect others to spend their valuable time working through your ramblings, but you're not willing to spend the time to type in your requests properly?
GeoM
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Re: the strength of a magnet (3.00 / 0) (#3)
by WindHarvester on Sat Oct 07, 2006 at 08:51:41 PM MST

I agree that a google search would be helpfull for you.

However I do beleive the criticism is uncalled for.

Stick around and you will eventually get an educated answer ;o)

Lonnie



Re: the strength of a magnet (3.00 / 0) (#4)
by Flux on Sun Oct 08, 2006 at 01:16:34 AM MST

Magnetic measurements are virtually impossible without a flux meter.

The often quoted lifting force is meaningless unless you want to rescue a lost boat anchor.

Your only method is to use the makers data, knowing the grade of neo and the physical dimensions.

Try
http://www.magnetweb.com/
Flux

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Re: the strength of a magnet (3.00 / 0) (#5)
by luckeydog on Sun Oct 08, 2006 at 02:53:08 AM MST

That was a good question  northkorea
thank you for asking it.
wind gens are much funner to watch than solar panels. Broomfield,Colorado


Re: the strength of a magnet (3.00 / 0) (#7)
by Goose on Sun Oct 08, 2006 at 06:13:47 PM MST

Northkorea,
If you stay here and keep reading everyday you will find it is pretty consistant the rude comments come from only a handfull of people.(they're just wanna be tough guys) Don't get discouraged, keep asking questions, and always listen to Flux.  Guess what?  I did a google and this message came up.  You might help out somebody else.
Goose


Re: the strength of a magnet (3.00 / 0) (#8)
by stop4stuff on Mon Oct 09, 2006 at 09:04:46 AM MST

as nobody's atated the obvious...

try googling for a 'gauss meter'

you can find homebrew circuits on the web to make your own from old pc parts, the important bit is called a hall effect sensor, here is a discussion you may find interesting

paul



Re: the strength of a magnet (3.00 / 0) (#9)
by electrondady1 on Mon Oct 09, 2006 at 09:37:43 AM MST

someone posted a thread on a home made gauss meter about a month ago

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Re: the strength of a magnet (3.00 / 0) (#10)
by Flux on Mon Oct 09, 2006 at 09:49:36 AM MST

You will be hard pushed to find a reasonably priced Hall sensor that can manage over 2500 gauss.

This makes it virtually useless with neos in any form of closed magnetic circuit.

Unless you can measure up to about 1T (10,000g) it is of little use.

I use an integrator coupled to a search coil. It measures total flux enclosed within the coil area just in the same way as a Grassot fluxmeter. If you want flux density you divide by the area of the coil.

Just use a low drift op amp with very precise zeroing. You still need to calibrate the thing for defined measurement but it would be a good comparator even if not calibrated.
Flux

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Re: the strength of a magnet (3.00 / 0) (#11)
by stop4stuff on Mon Oct 09, 2006 at 11:54:30 AM MST

the data sheet for this hall sensor has 'unlimited' for the magnetic flux density maximum rating

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Re: the strength of a magnet (3.00 / 0) (#12)
by dinges on Mon Oct 09, 2006 at 12:22:09 PM MST

Hmmm... When I read 'excellent sensitivity' and 'unlimited flux density' on the same page, all alarmbells start to ring.

Let's see:

Supply voltage 5.0V;
sensitivity 1.3mV/G (0-900G; I'll extrapolate, for simplicity)
5000mV/1.3mV/G = 3850 Gauss (total range)

In reality, 1925 Gauss North and -1925 Gauss (South).
BTW, 10.000 G = 1T

Not exactly 'unlimited' in my book. Unless I'm overlooking something.

What also struck me: there's NO graph in the datasheet that gives output voltage as a function of magnetic field strenght... Strange, for a device that is supposed to measure exactly that.

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Re: the strength of a magnet (3.00 / 0) (#13)
by Flux on Tue Oct 10, 2006 at 12:53:10 AM MST

What that means is that it will not be killed by high flux density. It doesn't mean you can measure it.

It is designed as a switch for electronic controlled motors etc. You can use it for measurement at low flux density but it is not as convenient as the Honeywell Lohet things which are calibrated.
Flux

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