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paddlewheel vawt dynamometer


By Stonebrain, Section Mechanical
Posted on Tue Nov 7th, 2006 at 08:28:28 PM MST
the bottom of technology

Now my torkmaster is flying I was thinking of doing
something usefull.
I said:"Torkmaster,without data you're nothing"
Well, gennies is nice but electricity is
invisible and you can't see what's going on.
So I decided to stir water and mesure t°rise.Lucky I didn't
get there,I would have been disapointed.A few watts in a bucked
of water would have been difficult to mesure.
I had a sudden flash when I saw a picture of the dans
with a genny on a balance:
the PADDLEWHEEL VAWT DYNAMOMETER

I started with the balance.I consider this part
high tec because there is a rollerskate bearing in it.





The 15l paint drum contains water that's stirred by an impeller on the axe of a vawt
I put mes on the inner surface to increase friction of the water

This is the impeller.I made the holes in an (infructuous) attempt
to improve performance



after disapointing results I dicided to change the impeller/stator
configuration.I baked some pieces iron together to make this:





calibration




The funny thing about this dynameter is that it's suspended
the chains that's hanging on is the bearings.

 





The balance goes to 3 newton
Of course I can easily modify and recalibrate my balance to what I want
but  3 N was enough for the paddlewheel.
This is one of the topreadings at about 100-120 rpm,wind about 45km/h


The diam of the drum is about 30 cm.
A few days ago I estimated 6watt.To lazy to verify.

In the book of gary Johnson is a small chapter about the
paddlewheel with an awesome formula.My improved stator/rotor
gives some better results than the formula would say.But
still it is much to small to make a good load.
Have to scale it up ...if I do.

cheers,
stonebrain

paddlewheel vawt dynamometer | 6 comments (6 topical, 0 editorial)

Re: paddlewheel vawt dynamometer (3.00 / 0) (#1)
by dudevato (dudevato@yahoo.com) on Tue Nov 7th, 2006 at 01:49:33 PM MST
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StoneBrain, your project is Too Cool! That is some real engeneering, thanks for the pics.  What about one of those little digital bicycle speedometers that work off a magnet on a spoke sending a signal to a 'pickup' as the wheel spins. With a bit of figuring you could know the exact RPM of you machine. Keep up the Good Fun (I mean Work)



Re: paddlewheel vawt dynamometer (3.00 / 0) (#3)
by Stonebrain on Wed Nov 8th, 2006 at 10:50:16 AM MST
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Thanks,dudevato

Good idea for the speedometer.

cheers,
stonebrain

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Re: paddlewheel vawt dynamometer (3.00 / 0) (#2)
by Ungrounded Lightning Rod on Tue Nov 7th, 2006 at 02:44:31 PM MST
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Interesting.

By the way:  It looks like your rotor is squeezing the air down into a very narrow passage between the two halves of the bow.  Seems to me that would restrict the flow and thus the power you can get from the swept area.  Perhaps if you did another with the central opening having a (much) larger cross-section you'd get more power from it?



Re: paddlewheel vawt dynamometer (3.00 / 0) (#4)
by Stonebrain on Wed Nov 8th, 2006 at 11:20:14 AM MST
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Hi,ulr

you're not the only one who's interested in my realisation:




lol

'By the way:  It looks like your rotor is squeezing the air down into a very narrow passage between the two halves of the bow.  Seems to me that would restrict the flow and thus the power you can get from the swept area.  Perhaps if you did another with the central opening having a (much) larger cross-section you'd get more power from it?'

Yes,maybe,who knows.

But this posting is about my dynamometer.
The low power is because the paddlewheel is not powerfull enough.
The blades can do more.

Apart scaling up,what methods of improvement.

different design?
different fluid?.Would higher viscosity improve it
and how much.I've been thinking about sugar.
I tried catlitter for making some kind of mud,but
the startup was very late and high windperformance was not
any better(even worse).
My purpose was a lowcost dynamometer.But if I have to scale it up
the lowcost is fading away.
Other ideas for a cheap dynamometer?
I think an eddy current generator might be an interesting alternatif.

thanks for your comment

cheers,
stonebrain


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Re: paddlewheel vawt dynamometer (3.00 / 0) (#5)
by Ungrounded Lightning Rod on Wed Nov 8th, 2006 at 07:06:01 PM MST
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Other ideas for a cheap dynamometer?
I think an eddy current generator might be an interesting alternatif.

How about using an old induction motor and putting some (adjustable) DC through it for an eddy-current brake?

Hang a fan on it and you should be able to dump quite a lot of power.  And since it's adjustable you can gather torque/RPM/wind-speed curves.

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Re: paddlewheel vawt dynamometer (3.00 / 0) (#6)
by Stonebrain on Thu Nov 9th, 2006 at 02:07:30 PM MST
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'How about using an old induction motor and putting some (adjustable) DC through it for an eddy-current brake?'

hmmm,sounds like high tec.
I mean I don't understand very well how it works.
wait
Maybe the eddycurrents are in the rotor and the dc through the
coils makes the field,right?

.What motor would I need for,say 100watt at 100rpm
.how many volts dc.
.How to get me a variable dc source

still love the paddlewheel

Thanks URL,

cheers,
stonebrain

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