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EPA,,, ouch!


By bob g, Section Rants & Opinion
Posted on Sun Mar 26th, 2006 at 04:51:36 PM MST
The EPA has banned the liseroids and changfa imports...

i guess i have been too busy with business for the last several months and now i find that the EPA in its infinite wisdom has banned these engines.

What a load of crap, just how big of a contributor can these little engines be, it isnt like i see millions of them belching out black soot, or for that matter even one of them doing so on a daily basis.

it sure seems odd how every time a guy gets close to being independant there is "big brother" right there to pull you back into the tent.

many area's of the country are now looking into ways of keeping folks from putting up wind generators, i guess if it isn't the bird huggers it's the view nazi's.

in some states it is nary impossible to put in a water generator, because of some damn fish, errosion or god knows what.

guess that leaves us with solar, until they figure how to tax you on the sun, or until they decide the glare messes up the migratory path of some bug!

its getting to the point that perhaps it might be easier to purchase the necessary components to build a small scale neuclear reactor, (hey i am joking, or am I)

i am getting to be an old fart, and now i am becoming a surrly of fart.

is there a coastal state in this union that wants to succeed from the union?

i am bloody well ready to move there.

bob g

EPA,,, ouch! | 9 comments (9 topical, 0 editorial)

Re: EPA,,, ouch! (3.00 / 0) (#1)
by whatsnext on Sun Mar 26th, 2006 at 02:03:20 PM MST
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Who cares? Do you think the EPA is really going to stop any from coming in? BTW: where did you see this?
John



Re: EPA,,, ouch! (3.00 / 0) (#2)
by bob g on Sun Mar 26th, 2006 at 02:09:36 PM MST
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George at Utterpower.com has posted info about the ban of these engines on his site, as or march 20th 2006.

i checked with an importer here in the northwest and he has informed me that he cannot import any more of the changfa's or the listeroids because of this ban.

i feel like we are being robbed

bob g

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Re: EPA,,, ouch! (3.00 / 0) (#3)
by MelTx on Sun Mar 26th, 2006 at 03:32:13 PM MST
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    Hey Bob try S. Carolina they might want some more action.They were first last time,I was too young to get in on that one, now i am too old...The real reason they are baned is the little engines dont burn enough fuel...Not because the polute too much...See the little ones cut down on G.B & Shotgun cheny's revenue...write them a letter and tell them the engines burn 2000 galons an hour and you will have 10 engines on your doorstep tommorow ....



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by drdongle (Dr.Dongle1@juno.com) on Sun Mar 26th, 2006 at 03:37:19 PM MST
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As usual the road to hell is paved with the good intentions of bureaucrats with to damn much time on their hands.
Carpe Vigor, Dr.D


Re: EPA,,, ouch! (3.00 / 0) (#5)
by Volvo farmer on Mon Mar 27th, 2006 at 05:26:42 AM MST
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Here is an interesting discussion on the subject.
http://listerengine.com/smf/index.php?PHPSESSID=0016bf3658834698db59a9e0089babd4&topic=330.0

I wonder if George might have got himself some attention from the EPA by putting that "stationary" changfa in a Geo Metro and selling it on Ebay a while back. I'd bet if you really really want to buy a Lister clone, you can still get one if you're willing to jump through some hoops.

Volvo Farmer

May you always have success in your quest to irritate those who you despise. -Ben Goode



Re: EPA,,, ouch! (3.00 / 0) (#6)
by ghurd on Mon Mar 27th, 2006 at 09:06:53 AM MST
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I have a feeling they will be available again.  Maybe with a few smog controlls, Cat. converter, etc.



Re: EPA,,, ouch! (3.00 / 0) (#7)
by kitno455 on Mon Mar 27th, 2006 at 11:59:09 AM MST
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no no, this is the US. we love the environment, so we still allow sulfur in our diesel, which prevents CATs :) isnt hypocracy wonderful.

allan

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Re: EPA,,, ouch! (3.00 / 0) (#8)
by jimjjnn (jimjjnn at yahoo dot com) on Mon Mar 27th, 2006 at 02:40:11 PM MST
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Geez, the diesel in my 2005 Jeep Liberty has a cat-convertor on it. Smells terrible but seems to work. Of course I use 5% Biodiesel now. I'm dreading when the ULSD diesel is here. Price will go sky high.
Jim Denver,CO
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Re: EPA,,, ouch! (3.00 / 0) (#9)
by kitno455 on Tue Mar 28th, 2006 at 07:47:11 AM MST
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hmm- trap oxidizer? or have they figured out how to cat convert with sulfur?

allan

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