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Urban Wind Systems


By JF, Section Wind
Posted on Mon Mar 27, 2006 at 08:48:52 AM MST
Urban wind systems - maybe the first signs of going mainstream at last

Dear Friends

Please check-out a recent background news story from the BBC in the UK.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/magazine/4694070.stm

Perhaps this is a very significant "sign of change". Although of course
IKEA - The large Swedish furniture store - established a small wind farm
on the parking-lot at their store in Copenhagen Denmark back in the 1970's.

Likewise there has been several attempts to do likewise in The Netherlands
a few years ago.

As an additional comment - I recently passed an old WINDMATIC wind turbine
in the yard of a machinery workshop in the urban suburbs of a small nearby
town and still in perfect condition and working away although it now must
be 30 years old or so.
[There are still many RISAGER 18 kW - the parent design of the WINDMATIC
working on many small farms and these are all about 35 - 40 years old].  

With greetings and best wishes to all - JF

Urban Wind Systems | 4 comments (4 topical)

Re: Urban Wind Systems (3.00 / 0) (#1)
by tecker on Mon Mar 27, 2006 at 11:56:46 AM MST

Yes sirie Bob . Now you see boomin boom on the rise . Coops and will start to set up distribution with that in mind . here here



Re: Urban Wind Systems (3.00 / 0) (#2)
by CG on Tue Mar 28, 2006 at 02:05:04 AM MST

Uban wind energy systems could also do a lot of harm to the promotion of wind energy if micro turbines are installed attached to houses in densly populated housing estates. I would prefer one 200kilowatt turbine in an industrial estate managed by a company used to looking after plant and has engineering staff, than 100 1kilowatt turbines on a housing estate owned by people who have never heard of Albert Betz.



Re: Urban Wind Systems (3.00 / 0) (#3)
by tecker on Tue Mar 28, 2006 at 04:32:24 AM MST

We're so sorry uncle a but we gata go forward and at least the urban tangle will be doing somthing to bail it's self out.

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Re: Urban Wind Systems (3.00 / 0) (#4)
by JF on Tue Mar 28, 2006 at 06:08:27 AM MST

Dear Friends

With the greatest respect to friends and colleagues and without
wishing in any way to engage in further or unnecessary polemics
- In my copy of the book "Wind-Energie" by Dipl. Engineer Albert
Betz, Gottingen 1926 - in my translation from German from the
very first page:

"The wind conditions are often very different between "places"
["Ort" => physical places or areas] and time".

I believe that there are sayings in English -
"Your conditions may vary"
"Courses for horses".

Likewise as is well known - there are increasing
planning-permission difficulties in erecting small-medium
wind turbines of between 80-500 kW in many countries.

Often those few remaining as f.ex. mentioned in my previous
comment are solely still standing in defiance of stromg
economic pressures to have them removed - with reference to
the so-called "greater productivity of the 2 MW units

[and over 20% of our yearly national consumption of electricty
comes from wind - of course during winter it is often 100%]

In our village on the windy Kattegat coast [5.8 m/s average
yearly wind speed] - there is as previously mentioned in
another posting- great interest for small/micro wind turbines
- able to contribute a reasonable portion of heat-input to
our hot-water systems during winter.

And yes - we all have "Pilkington energy-glas" windows and
house insulation and planted shelter-belt-hedges around our
houses.
And we also are thinking of group cooperative construction
of solar thermal units.
And we heat our houses with good efficient indoor wood-burning
stoves - and all use oil for hot water in winter.
[heating-oil at about - $ 1.2 USD/ltr - including CO2 tax]
And yes - we have also considered the bio-fuel diesel option
- which however has been posponed due to certain hardware
difficulties.

With greetings and best wishes to all - JF

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