Electrons ROCK!
By solarengineer, Section Wind Posted on Mon Jul 17, 2006 at 06:59:08 PM MST
she's flying with a snag

Well the 10ft is flying, but naturally something had to go wrong. here are the pics!! Here she is lookin pretty DOH!!!!!! Stupid pole!! i thought if i bent the whole pole, the tail would straighten.. we drove over it 19 times with the tractor! :-) Nah, the pole bent as we were putting it up without a jin pole... oh well nother lesson learned! Whatever she's spewing electrons galore..500W so far. Now to shimmy up the pole and put some guy's on the top to the jin pole so we can take it back down without it snapping like a twig. Then its going up 50 ft.... Well now the pole has a dog leg just like the stator, FLUX....do you think that things should be evened out now?? LOL :-) I'm trying to follow the Dan's example of the farm animals mills.... I thought i would do origami poles....not working so well!! LOL :-) Cheers! Jamie..

Electrons ROCK! | 12 comments (12 topical)

Re: Electrons ROCK! (3.00 / 0) (#1) by coldspot on Mon Jul 17, 2006 at 01:59:12 PM MST

Bummer !!!!!! :( What is pipe size? Estimated geni and blade weight?

Re: Electrons ROCK! (3.00 / 0) (#8) by solarengineer on Tue Jul 18, 2006 at 01:33:18 PM MST

coldspot, 3" pipe and about 120lbs Jamie [ Parent ]

Re: Electrons ROCK! (3.00 / 0) (#2) by Ungrounded Lightning Rod on Mon Jul 17, 2006 at 04:03:07 PM MST

Now to shimmy up the pole and put some guy's on the top to the jin pole so we can take it back down without it snapping like a twig. If you really need an extra guy for a one-shot take-it-down try this:  - Use suitable hardware to put a loop in the end of a piece of cable.  - Lay the cable out in a circle on the ground around the existing guys.  - Pass the other end of the cable through the loop.  - Pull the loop tight, making it climb the pyramid of guys.  - Flip it to throw waves up it until it gets over the hardware near the top and is tight to the mast above the existing guy mounts. That should be adequate to apply the gin pole to mast force to bring it down safely. (Of course you could just hook one of the existing guys to the gin pole, if you can keep it from toppling while it's disconnected from the anchor.  Maybe use the loop to hold it to the anchor while you move the "real" guy to the gin pole?)

Re: Electrons ROCK! (3.00 / 0) (#9) by solarengineer on Tue Jul 18, 2006 at 01:34:30 PM MST

great suggestion!! thanks! [ Parent ]

Re: Electrons ROCK! (3.00 / 0) (#3) by wpowokal on Mon Jul 17, 2006 at 05:39:56 PM MST

Yes always a let down, however the top guy wires must be as close to the lower edge of the blades as safe. One set as it seems by the picture, will simply not work, oh I guess you found that out. The wind is trying to push the turbine one way while the tower is trying to bend the oposite around the fulcrum created by the top guy wires. The distance between top and second top guy wires is related to pipe strength for the above reason. At 50' will it clear those power lines if it falls that way? Looks like 3" pipe to me. regards allan "Dream as if you'll live forever, live as if you'll die today." James Dean

Re: Electrons ROCK! (3.00 / 0) (#4) by jmk on Mon Jul 17, 2006 at 07:35:08 PM MST

How did you get it up with a tractor? Seems impossible, but you seem to have done it. I am curious to the pipe size also. jmk

Re: Electrons ROCK! (3.00 / 0) (#10) by solarengineer on Tue Jul 18, 2006 at 01:36:49 PM MST

the pole pivots down and is 30ft high... the tractor raises the bucket as high as possible against the pipe.. we give it a push and tracktor gently backs up and pole comes down with it... ya it's scarry.. new pole will be lattice type thats climbable and gin pole [ Parent ]

Re: Electrons ROCK! (3.00 / 0) (#5) by ghurd on Tue Jul 18, 2006 at 12:45:26 AM MST

I would be quite concerned with the cable twisting. If the top is not level, the cable can twist up very fast. It is nice to see a new version of almost perfect.  And 500W is good! G- Ghurd.info

Re: Electrons ROCK! (3.00 / 0) (#11) by solarengineer on Tue Jul 18, 2006 at 01:37:46 PM MST

As an aside, last night 25km/h winds+ and 1100 watts yyyyyyyaaaaaaaaaaaa!!!!!!!!!!!!! [ Parent ]

Re: Electrons ROCK! (3.00 / 0) (#6) by tsakach on Tue Jul 18, 2006 at 12:49:18 AM MST

I would move it further away from those utility lines. It might generate a lot more than 500 watts!

Re: Electrons ROCK! (3.00 / 0) (#7) by wooferhound on Tue Jul 18, 2006 at 08:18:11 AM MST

Or you could string up some Long Wire Runs under those power lines and get some power from that. http://www.fieldlines.com/story/2005/4/16/16939/3187 W o o f -={(

Re: Electrons ROCK! (3.00 / 0) (#12) by K3CZ on Tue Jul 18, 2006 at 08:22:32 PM MST

Beautiful setup, but if those 100,000 plus volt power lines are as close as they appear to be, you guys must have a death wish, esp. if you are going higher!!                                          Good luck,  K3CZ,  PE

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