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Tail characteristics


By frackers, Section Wind
Posted on Tue Apr 01, 2008 at 10:57:28 AM MST
Observations at differing wind speeds

I thought others may wish to comment on my observations of the behavior of the tail on my 10 footer. The tail is about 5 square feet on the end of a 5 foot boom as can be seen here and here.

In very low winds, the generator is yawing (now I've greased the bearing) and the tail is pointing the blades straight into the wind.

As the wind increases and the generator reaches cutin voltage, the blades are pushed out of the wind by as much as 30-50 degrees so the tail and blades are sometimes making equal angles to the wind.

As the wind increases further (in the 10-20 amp load region), the tail starts to take control again and the plane of the blades comes to within about 20 degrees of the wind.

More wind and the blades are just starting to furl (i.e. its the blades that move after all, the tail just sits downwind!) but as it does so, the force on the blades of  course drops off so, the blades swing back, the tail whips round 30 degrees the other way with the result that the blades almost stall. Its still too gusty the last couple of days to see if this will set up an oscillation in a steady wind (and the tower isn't jacked up high enough for clean air anyway!).

My thinking is that my tail is a bit too small in area although I think the weight is about right (still waiting for really strong winds to test that though).

Have I got the theory about right do you think?

Tail characteristics | 2 comments (2 topical)

Re: Tail characteristics (3.00 / 0) (#1)
by Flux on Tue Apr 01, 2008 at 10:31:20 AM MST

You are probably a bit small on the tail, that would be more suitable for 8ft.

I doubt that many even notice these things. Most wouldn't have any direct reference to know the actual wind direction at the machine. You may have a turbulent site and that causes very strange things to happen.

Wait a bit longer before deciding, try to get enough wind to be really furling before making changes. If all seems ok then try to increase the area without adding excessive weight. You will probably find that running up to 30 deg to the wind will make little difference and as long as it is safe in high winds then there may be little benefit in changing things.

Flux



Re: Tail characteristics (3.00 / 0) (#2)
by SparWeb on Tue Apr 01, 2008 at 01:16:07 PM MST

I saw that same phenomenon on mine.  The tail surface was too small.  I increased its size, and I also set its angle a bit greater than 90 degrees.  That way, when the tail is a few degrees away from the wind one way, the blades are more in line with it.

Remember that a tail vane is an aerodynamic surface like any other.  It gains an angle of attack, which generates a lift force.  That lift force (sideways) counteracts the thrust force (backward) on the prop.  When the tail is too small, its lift force isn't fully developed until it's at an excessively large angle of attack.  Too much angle, and the tail vane can "stall" in its own way, and the thrust of the prop suddenly overcomes the failing lift on the tail.  Soon after, the prop is turned out of the wind, the thrust drops, and the whole thing swings back into the wind to re-start.

It really hampers performance, and gustiness at your site makes it worse.

Heed Flux's warning about the furling weight - careful not to loose sight of one while fixing the other!
Steven Fahey



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