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Solar Charging Station


By dimtick, Section Solar
Posted on Mon Apr 28th, 2008 at 07:19:03 PM MST
solar charging station

As a newbie to solar power I thought that a good way to get my feet wet would be to build a small solar battery charging station for my house.  I've looked at the small solar chargers available & would like to make something a little bigger (say the $300 range).
the things I want to charge are our cell phones, ipods, portable DVD player & my kids have a ton of toys that use rechargable batteries.

I found a DIY project on Popular Science that seems ok, but thought that somebody here probably has something better.
http://www.popsci.com/diy/article/2007-07/diy-solar-charger

any help would be greatly appreciated
thanks
Chuck

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Re: Solar Charging Station (3.00 / 0) (#1)
by dimtick on Mon Apr 28th, 2008 at 01:28:49 PM MST
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something to add.
my wife & I work during the day & the kids are at school so I thought this system should be hooked up to a large battery & then the devices would be charged over-night off the battery.



Re: Solar Charging Station (3.00 / 0) (#3)
by mettleramiel on Tue Apr 29th, 2008 at 05:21:56 AM MST
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Get a power pack like this http://images.canadiantire.ca/media/images/products/images/Assortments/PrimaryAssortments/Automotive /PortablePower/PowerPacks/0111823_450_CC_43c8b.jpg

You can charge it with solar and they already have a 12v socket and a built-in inverter. They even have a charge controller so you won't have to worry about overcharging, plus they come with maintenance free gel or AGM batteries. You can usually get them pretty cheap nowadays too, depending on the size. $50 wouldn't be unreasonable for the size you need, especially if you got it used.

Aside from my regular panel array, I have a small 7 watts of panels that go directly into one of these power packs. I charge my GPS, 2 cell phones, 2-way radios, Nintendo DS and 2 Nintendo Wii controllers. I usually charge at least one item every day or two and between all of these things, I've never had a low battery.

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Re: Solar Charging Station (3.00 / 0) (#4)
by dimtick on Tue Apr 29th, 2008 at 07:28:41 AM MST
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Thanx Metteramiel.
I actual have a portable power pack....I was thinking that I could eventually expand my system so that I could recharge it as well.  it never occured to me to use it as the battery pack.....duh.

Thank you.
Chuck


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Re: Solar Charging Station (3.00 / 0) (#2)
by richhagen (richhagen (a t) Juno.com) on Mon Apr 28th, 2008 at 02:54:13 PM MST
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Just thinking off of the top of my head, I have a 12V system at my house which has been in place for quite a few years now, it is not my main power system, and only provides light for my laundry room and some seedling starting lights at the moment.  

In thinking off of the top of my head about your proposal, I'm in at a bit more than $300, but a functional system might be something like this.  you might be able to rig a 30 watt panel (I happened to see a 30 Watt Panel at Sunelectric Miami for $125 plus shipping but check all on-line vendors) A trace C12 charge controller or something similar with charge and integrated low voltage disconnect for $75 or less from EBAY, a marine deep cycle battery for about $80 (not very good, but you don't have enough current coming in at 30 watts for golf cart batteries which would be a step up and you budget precludes other, more expensive batteries), a small 12V 400 Watt inverter for $25 like one I saw at Amazon.com for those items for which you cannot get 12 volt auto style chargers for, and about 25 bucks for cigarette lighter sockets from an auto parts store and wiring, also I would probably pick up a 12V to 5V USB style cigarette plug adapter if I had devices that charged from USB. I don't like the durability of cigarette lighter sockets, so I would probably hard wire through switches the items which would not need to be mobile, In my case, I scalp old switches and stuff from old electronics.  By the way, I have no affiliation with any of the vendors mentioned, they are just items that I have seen, and anyway, these are just some ideas.

This would give you a basic system with a 12V DC capacity to charge items from 12V, and a small 120VAC component for things that can charge from it, or in case of a power outage to run a small appliance or tool.  

The next item to add would be more solar capacity as a fair percentage of what you would be making would be used up just keeping the larger 12V battery charged before you pull any power out to charge your smaller stuff.  In fact, I would probably start with a second panel and two golf cart batteries myself.  When you add up the cost of the power, you will find that the power from your small system will actually be more costly than the grid, but you will have the satisfaction of knowing that you made the power locally, and a bit of self reliance feels good.  Rich
'A Joule saved is a Joule made'



Re: Solar Charging Station (3.00 / 0) (#5)
by dimtick on Tue Apr 29th, 2008 at 07:31:59 AM MST
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Thanks Richhagen
I'm going to buy that solar panel.

Thank You
Chuck


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Re: Solar Charging Station (3.00 / 0) (#6)
by ghurd on Tue Apr 29th, 2008 at 07:45:34 AM MST
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I find the price of that thing in the link 'shocking'.
In the USA, double the money would get 10 times the usable power.

Wet Feet?
The HF kit, with mounting brackets and a pair of 12VDC CFLs, on sale, with a 15% off coupon, $150.
Big giant yellow wally-world deep cycle, $100.
SG-4 to replace the HF controller, before it ruins the battery, $30.
"Odds-n-Ends", $25 to $50?

Throw in a Vector 400W inverter from Pep-Boys, on sale and with rebates, $30, sometimes $25.

That would be usable power.  Small but usable.

The thing in the link is how I charge cell phones, drill batteries, and AAs.  I don't have $35 in it.
G-




Re: Solar Charging Station (3.00 / 0) (#7)
by dimtick on Tue Apr 29th, 2008 at 08:20:13 AM MST
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Thanx Ghurd
do you have a source for the things you mention...HF kit?  SG-4?

C


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Re: Solar Charging Station (3.00 / 0) (#8)
by mettleramiel on Tue Apr 29th, 2008 at 09:14:33 AM MST
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Just be warned, though, Harbour Freight kits are thin film panels, so they won't last as long as that 30w one mentioned above. Personaly, I would get the 30w panel with a 25 year warranty as opposed to a 5 year one, but that's just me.

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Re: Solar Charging Station (3.00 / 0) (#9)
by Bruce S (bruce(dot)stahl <at>gmail (dot)(com)) on Tue Apr 29th, 2008 at 10:48:28 AM MST
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You may be correct on the long duration part, have only had my HF panels two winters now.
BUT for getting his feet wet it is a good route to go. Has everything needed except the battery.
plus with (3) 15 watt panels you can seperate them and do cute little "test" projects with a panel and can always put it back if you need to.

The newer controller in the HF set is 100 times better than the old one. But being the smart person I play in my mind ;-O I went with a true solar controller. Then pipe it off to the batteries, then to the HF controller which I call and PDU (power Distrubution Unit).

Cheers
Bruce S

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Re: Solar Charging Station (3.00 / 0) (#11)
by ghurd on Tue Apr 29th, 2008 at 04:59:01 PM MST
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Like Bruce said,
HF kit is Harbor Freight ITEM 90599.  It's often on sale cheaper at the retail store.  Then the coupon. Wet feet.

MorningStar controller SG-4.  If you can't get one delivered for under $35, shoot me an email.

Like mettleramiel said about the expected life span, except last time I saw a HF warranty card it was 90 days.  And the popsci link has a cheapie thin-film too.
G-


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Re: Solar Charging Station (3.00 / 0) (#10)
by Bruce S (bruce(dot)stahl <at>gmail (dot)(com)) on Tue Apr 29th, 2008 at 11:13:22 AM MST
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Chuck;
   Here's a good way to semi-cheaply get your feet wet.
I've helped 1/2 dozen neighbors do this.
Go to HFs website, sign up for fliers, wait for one to show up showing 15% discount. Pick up a set; will be about 160.00 depending on tax.
While waiting for the discount, look for used batteries. At work in old UPS backups are a good place. Get a meter and check to make sure they read at least 12V anything less and they're probably no good any longer, If the come from APC UPSs look the battery over closely. They are sealed, but APC was/is bad about cooking them , easy way to tell is to look at the casing and check for cracks, find any say no thanks. Car battery will also work BUT messy and I wouldn't around children.

While there, also look for a little 100 - 150 watter inverter, will be one that you can plug into a cigarette lighter. shouldn't be more than $30, I paid 19 on sale.

Also, look at ALL of the chargers ( walwarts) and find the wattage levels most so as a level of 120Vac , multiply this by 10 if they do. add them all up and see if the total in above the 100 - 150 watter inverter if so find a bigger one to handle the total but about 20% more.

Once you have the Panels, find a nice unshaded place that you can set it up connect it the way the instructions say to, connect the battery to the controller, the one that came with the kit ( for now) let it set in the sun for a few days, unless you've fully charged the battery already. You don't need to have the controller turned on to charge the battery , plus the new ones have a little button to turn off the display. Once the display shows 12.8 volts or above, plug the inverter into the cigarette outlet and plug a power strip into the inverter and let the items charge.

NOTE: This is one of many simple ways to do this without a full load of money and gives back almost instant rewards. Which will go a long way to showing even the kids how neat this stuff is. You could even make note that having the walwarts plugged into this and not into the house that's 24/7 power you're not waisting.
There much more effiecent ways, but this should be one of the quickest and eaiser ways.
Then if you don't mind come back with pics and let us know how it's doing.
There are people on here that can steer you to the correct devices if you decide to go larger and can help decide. Only things needed are how much more you want to do and what the power requirements are
Hope this helps;
Bruce S

 



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