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Tower Almost Ready!


By soyer38301, Section Wind
Posted on Sat Jan 24, 2009 at 06:38:06 PM MST
I have my tower almost ready to go...

Just figured I would throw a couple of pictures of my tower up...Found some 4" schd 40 pipe.

The tower itself is two 21' sections with a 9 footer in the middle. I was going to trim it down to 8 but the cut off saw I have been using cuts a little off so I figured I would leave it. The gin pole is a 21' section and a 4 footer for a total of 25'.

I have the ground anchors out 25' from where the base of the tower will be so should be OK with 2 sets of 1/4" steel cable for the guy wires (unless someone has any other suggestions).

Scott













Typo fixed. TW
Tower Almost Ready! | 13 comments (13 topical)

Re: Tower Almost Ready! (3.00 / 0) (#1)
by soyer38301 on Sat Jan 24, 2009 at 11:39:41 AM MST

Sorry - have a correction to make already...1/4" cable...not 1/2...

Scott



Re: Tower Almost Ready! (3.00 / 0) (#13)
by soyer38301 on Sat Feb 07, 2009 at 10:50:57 AM MST

Reworked the guy wire tabs. Still look a little ugly but they are burned into both pieces of steel..Should hold fine now. I also have the top plate welded on...hopefully with the warmer weather here in the midwest I can get this puppy up in the next week or so...







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Re: Tower Almost Ready! (3.00 / 0) (#2)
by KEG on Sat Jan 24, 2009 at 04:56:05 PM MST

Looks good so far other then the weld on the cable bracket, might just be the picture, but be on the safe side if they are in dought have some one that can weld at least look at them for you, just don't want to see alot of hard work come down.
Kevin


Re: Tower Almost Ready! (3.00 / 0) (#3)
by projectpower on Sun Jan 25, 2009 at 01:54:45 AM MST

g,day guys lookin good ay keep up the good work
christopher


Re: Tower Almost Ready! (3.00 / 0) (#4)
by ruddycrazy on Sun Jan 25, 2009 at 02:22:01 AM MST

Hiya Soyer,
            I opened the pic of the cable brace welds and enlarged them. Do yourself a big favour and grab a angle grinder and cut them off and if you cant weld in properly get someone who can.



Bloody scoop I did upload the second pic twice but still I can't see it but anyway that pic is reason enough to rip them off and start again.

Please dont see this as being picky but the last thing we'd like to see is your tower coming down due to those welds breaking.

Cheers Bryan



Re: Tower Almost Ready! (3.00 / 0) (#5)
by wooferhound on Sun Jan 25, 2009 at 08:54:34 AM MST

Your other picture . . .




W o o f -={(

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Re: Tower Almost Ready! (3.00 / 0) (#6)
by soyer38301 on Sun Jan 25, 2009 at 11:46:39 AM MST

Thanks for the comments -- already in the process of either taking them off or re-enforcing the welds...It has been about 10 years since I did any welding so I am trying to "relearn". I did have someone come in and weld the pipe together. He used to weld pipeline so he knew what he was doing!!

Scott

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Re: Tower Almost Ready! (3.00 / 0) (#7)
by jonas302 on Sun Jan 25, 2009 at 12:11:07 PM MST

Not trying to tell you what is best but I wonder if the brackets should be bigger like maybe a foot long on the pipe side triange shaped to hook up the cables would give lot more room for welds also don't put the hole to close to the edge so it can't tear out
Hope to see her flying soon

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Re: Tower Almost Ready! (3.00 / 0) (#8)
by soyer38301 on Sun Jan 25, 2009 at 12:41:50 PM MST

I will take a look at that -- thanks for the suggestion. Better to get it right before it goes up...  ;-)

Scott

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Re: Tower Almost Ready! (3.00 / 0) (#9)
by soyer38301 on Sun Jan 25, 2009 at 12:43:28 PM MST

I'll post some more pics after I get the brackets either fixed or completely redone. Unfortunately it won't be until next weekend...I have to be in Chicago for training all week.

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Re: Tower Almost Ready! (3.00 / 0) (#10)
by dnix71 on Sun Jan 25, 2009 at 08:07:54 PM MST

Maybe you could make each cable with a Y end. The top of the Y is just long enough to go around the pole and clamp to the brace hole. The brace then basically just keeps each cable from slipping down the upright when anchored.

That puts the braces under tension rather than pulling and doesn't add a turning force.

A catalever weld isn't very strong turning. The closer those brace holes are to the pole, the better.

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Re: Tower Almost Ready! (3.00 / 0) (#11)
by halfcrazy on Mon Jan 26, 2009 at 04:25:24 AM MST

I was kind of thinking of doing something like that to mine just as a safety precaution i know the welds wont let go the steel will first but.
I was going to take a short hunk of cable and go thru all 4 thimbles at the top and clamp the cable to make a safety cable. i did that on all my turnbuckles as a safety net. will have to see we may add 20 ft to my tilt up tower and it will be 86ft instead of 66ft so the extra height makes me nervous



Not taking it to the fair (3.00 / 0) (#12)
by Barb on Mon Jan 26, 2009 at 01:09:09 PM MST

I was wondering what the fuss was about the welds? The idea is to weld one piece of metal to another. Unlike a pipeline or a Nuclear Plant where welds are judged on aesthetic values as much as their X ray integrity (no carbon or gaps in the weld) these welds serve a single purpose design which is strength.

If the gentleman's amps were high enough and he gets enough penetration with his rod then even if the weld looks like it was done by the Mud Dobbers, it's a good weld. I would have been burning a mild rod at 180 amps for that four inch pipe weld. The high amps would have made sure all the carbon impurities flowed out of the weld itself. Keep your weld moving as you don't want to burn holes in the pipe.

If you're unsure, knock the slag off with an angle grinder and weld over using a sweeping motion from pipe to plate rather than a puddle action like they taught you in welding school. There is no purpose served in cutting them off and starting over.

The plates look like quarter inch steel. If one can pull the hole out of that puppy you have more problems than worrying about if that tower is still standing. Use high strength shackles and bolts. Don't try and loop your cable through that hole. It will chaff the cable and cut it, possibly causing a failure at that point. Go into your farm store and see if you can't find a clevis that will do the trick for you.

Four inch sch. 40 pipe? You could park your pickup on top that tower you get it guyed down right.
have faith God is at the helm of this starship we call Earth



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