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20 Foot PVC Tower


By taylorp035, Section Wind
Posted on Wed Jul 15, 2009 at 10:04:51 PM MST
... didn't think it was even possible!

This afternoon, between my twin brother and I, we managed to get our 30" cnc bladed windmill on top of a 20 foot pvc pipe tower.  As you could imagine, holding a 15 lb windmill on top of a 10 foot pole while you are standing on top of a 4-wheeler in flip-flops is no easy task.  Here is the finished product.


During the last 3 days, I spent about 6 hours carving a new 20" blade for my mini motor.  My goal was to hit 3000 rpm at 10m/s, which after testing was certainly achievable.  The bad thing was that I chose maple as the material, which was way too hard use my spoke shave to cut the darn thing.  So I looked around and found a really sharp 1-1/4" wood chisel.  This worked much better, especially because the double blade was so small.  Here is the finished product, sorry that doesn't show much detail.


As you can see I decided to mount the new blade straight to the old windmill, giving it 4 blades.  I found that this helped start up speeds considerably.  After watching it for a while, I rotated the front blade so it lined up with the back blade, like an old biplane.


In a couple of minutes, I will have a video uploaded of it in action, and the how much the pole was bending.

On a different note, yesterday I was at Presque Isle State Park and I was watching their 23 foot bergy s 10kw windmill.  It was on a 120 foot tower.  Sometime later, I went into the building that it was hooked up and saw the power meter.  It was reading between 80-100 rpm at 500-900 watts.  I would guess the winds to be at about 10mph.

Just up the road, there is another bergy s 10kw windmill on the bluffs overlooking lake erie and i heard that it only produces half the power annually.  It must be at least 30 feet higher in the air, but the presque isle one is out by the water where the wind is much better.  They must only be a mile apart.

20 Foot PVC Tower | 16 comments (16 topical)

Re: 20 Foot PVC Tower (3.00 / 0) (#1)
by fabricator on Wed Jul 15, 2009 at 05:10:09 PM MST

Is that a Yamaha Big Bear?
I aint skeered a nuthin......Oh S%*T! What was that?!!!


Re: 20 Foot PVC Tower (3.00 / 0) (#5)
by taylorp035 on Wed Jul 15, 2009 at 05:59:54 PM MST

No, it is a Yahmaha 250 Timberwolf 4x4.  About 8-9 years old.

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Re: 20 Foot PVC Tower (3.00 / 0) (#11)
by taylorp035 on Wed Jul 15, 2009 at 08:06:42 PM MST

Here is a video of it running.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yNWxNSODEB8


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Re: 20 Foot PVC Tower (3.00 / 0) (#15)
by fabricator on Thu Jul 16, 2009 at 03:51:11 PM MST

Cool, I've got a big bear bought in 1988, I have never even had to change the plugs.
I aint skeered a nuthin......Oh S%*T! What was that?!!!
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Re: 20 Foot PVC Tower (3.00 / 0) (#16)
by taylorp035 on Thu Jul 16, 2009 at 04:21:13 PM MST

Neither have we.  But once we ran it down to 1 cup of oil.  The guy at the repair place yelled at us for that.

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Re: 20 Foot PVC Tower (3.00 / 0) (#2)
by ghurd on Wed Jul 15, 2009 at 05:51:12 PM MST

Dude!  I think there are 3???
Which one is by the outdoor Hot Dog / ice cream joint?  By where the roller coaster goes over SR832/Peninsula Dr.
Wife does the bike time trials there.
G-

Ghurd.info


Re: 20 Foot PVC Tower (3.00 / 0) (#4)
by taylorp035 on Wed Jul 15, 2009 at 05:59:13 PM MST

The Tom Ridge Center's windmill is closer to the 6th street / Peninsula Drive Intersection where the the OLD ice cream shop was and hot dog shop was and now stands a greek food place.  Do you live in erie ghurd?

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Re: 20 Foot PVC Tower (3.00 / 0) (#6)
by ghurd on Wed Jul 15, 2009 at 06:05:00 PM MST

Youngstown.
Seems like we'll be up that way again in August for another time trial?
I can't keep them straight.
G-
Ghurd.info
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Re: 20 Foot PVC Tower (3.00 / 0) (#8)
by taylorp035 on Wed Jul 15, 2009 at 06:08:45 PM MST

Youngstown, OH?  That's not too far away.  I live in McKean PA.  You should go to beach #2 where the Stull Center is and the windmill.

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Re: 20 Foot PVC Tower (3.00 / 0) (#7)
by taylorp035 on Wed Jul 15, 2009 at 06:06:41 PM MST

Also, where is the 3rd windmill?  Is there a second one on the peninsula that I don't remember or have never connected the dots in my head?  There is a windmill out in edinboro and one that you can see from I-90 heading towards North East...

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Re: 20 Foot PVC Tower (3.00 / 0) (#9)
by taylorp035 on Wed Jul 15, 2009 at 06:12:57 PM MST

Oh yeah I forgot, there is also a Skystream windmill at Penn State Behrend and one at the Bayfront Center on the bayfront parkway.  There is also a windmill at Slippery Rock University and one by the Greene Township building.

You can go to this link

http://www.fatspaniel.com/fat-spaniel-in-action/live-sites/

and type in "north coast energy systems"  for live data from 4 area sites.

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Re: 20 Foot PVC Tower (3.00 / 0) (#3)
by taylorp035 on Wed Jul 15, 2009 at 05:56:35 PM MST

Here are the video links.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZWfvyj8diug

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AdjE-d4cwQ4



Re: 20 Foot PVC Tower (3.00 / 0) (#10)
by taylorp035 on Wed Jul 15, 2009 at 07:45:01 PM MST

Here are some nice little graphs that I put together with the data that I got from my new brushless 3 phase generator.









Re: 20 Foot PVC Tower (3.00 / 0) (#12)
by taylorp035 on Wed Jul 15, 2009 at 08:16:57 PM MST

Here is my youtube channel for easy access to all of my videos.

http://www.youtube.com/user/MrPizzaman09



Re: 20 Foot PVC Tower (3.00 / 0) (#13)
by taylorp035 on Thu Jul 16, 2009 at 02:41:42 PM MST

After about an hour of work, I finally got the performance data for my 30" CNC windmill, which would be the most relevant data.  My max output was 20 watts in the wind, which puts the blade rpm at about 2300 rpm.  My testing equipment was basically a drill press that went 250-3000 rpm.  I was a little wary of putting 8 amps into AA batteries at 3000 rpm.









Re: 20 Foot PVC Tower (3.00 / 0) (#14)
by taylorp035 on Thu Jul 16, 2009 at 02:47:58 PM MST

After figuring out the expected wind speeds based on a TSR of 8, the wind speeds should have been...
  1. rpm  - 7.25 mph
  2. rpm - 12.16 mph
  3. rpm - 16.73 mph
  4. rpm - 24.3 mph
  5. rpm - 33.4 mph
Therefore my 20 watt max came at about 26 mph.  Based on that the efficiency would be 4.65%.

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