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jomoco

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PGS Animation 2nd Try
« on: March 09, 2005, 05:44:04 AM »


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Re: PGS Animation 2nd Try
« Reply #1 on: March 09, 2005, 08:52:15 AM »
Doesn't embed properly for me, but this link'll do it:


http://www.otherpower.com/images/scimages/3227/WindSail.wmv

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Re: PGS Animation 2nd Try
« Reply #2 on: March 09, 2005, 09:59:26 AM »
Thanks Chagrin,


I was beginning to think I'd never get this thing posted right!


While this animation doesn't show the six generation stations slaved to the primary binding axle, it does illustrate fairly well the machines primary motive force. For every three turns of the primary axle one of the six stations will be activated and produce power for well over three minutes time. The machine will function much like a six cylinder engine.


My question to the board is , what would be the optimum alternator- inverter setup

for the machine under the following criteria: each station weighs 750 lbs. : each station spins at 575rpm initially and slowly falls to about 200rpm before the next station activates in a low wind situation : each station has a 24 inch diameter drive pulley that can be utilized to gear either up or down.


My Treeslve prototype utilizes the same type of generation station, but has only six motors per station instead of the twelve on the PGS. The Treeslave put out 6000 watts with a 300 amp automotive alternator and Powerall inverter, but was somewhat

inefficient in that it had to be geared up through a gearbox to reach the required rpm. This resulted in pulses of power instead of a steady flow.


I thank you and the board for this format, and would welcome any suggestions and or criticisms of this new clean power generation system.


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Neeto yo!
« Reply #3 on: March 09, 2005, 08:30:47 PM »
Hey jomoco, that's pretty much like I imagined it from your previous description.

Kinda like a wind wound trebuchet - flinging amps rather than stones & plague ridden bodies.


How about using PV cells for the slats?

Not the best use of the cells, but hey ya gotta use something.


Nice job with the animation, what 3d software you using?

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Re: Neeto yo!
« Reply #4 on: March 09, 2005, 11:42:22 PM »
Thanks Big All,


You know, you're idea of using PV arrays for the vertical vanes is an excellent idea, and I'm sure that the power they would produce could be put to good use in many ways, like maybe de-icing in winter or a whole host of other neat things. You're obviously a natural born inventor, I can't believe it didn't even cross my mind, but hey that's why forums like this are so great! I just hope they're making solar panels that are tough enough to stand up to the beating they're going to have to take in high winds over the years.


You may have noticed that the tail vane depicted in the animation is kinda hokey, it should be longer, shorter and further away from the machine for greater leverage if it's going to face this four ton beast into the wind. However the animation expert that put the animation together for me, did it so fast and at such a bargain rate, that I didn't quibble about any shortcomings in the end product. He used one of the newer animation softwares out, I don't know which one, but the amazing thing is he did it in just a few hours! I intend to have him do a more detailed animation as soon as I can afford it, and will post it if it's not too big. He's a thirty year

electronics expert from the Bay area of S.F. and I'll post his companies name if and when he gives me permission to, and even then it'll have to be cleared through this boards administration. I see no reason however that I shouldn't post the name and type of software he used, as soon as I can get that info from him.


Thanks again for the great feed back Big All, the array of clean power generation equipment is getting bigger and better every day, let's hope it makes for a brighter and cleaner future!


jomoco@direcway.com

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Re: PGS Animation 2nd Try
« Reply #5 on: March 12, 2005, 02:36:03 PM »
  Reminds me of how a feather works only in

reverse...isn't it wonderful how nature provides

us with the answers all we have to do is look!

  Now for a way to swing it around when the wind

shifts, or get the average wind direction.

               ( :>) Norm.
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jomoco

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Re: PGS Animation 2nd Try
« Reply #6 on: March 12, 2005, 03:59:41 PM »
Thanks for the feedback Norm,


It was indeed nature that started me thinking about generating electricity with trees as I held on for dear life at 125 ft up as the wind blew the tree 6 or 7 ft from side to side.


As far as turning the machine into the wind, I thought I already accomplished that.


Any one interested in the animation software will be happy to know that it's called anim8or and it can be down loaded for free off the internet!


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Re: PGS Animation 2nd Try
« Reply #7 on: March 12, 2005, 04:30:05 PM »
 Sorry guys, but like an idiot I forgot to include the name of the site where the anim8or software can be down loaded for free, it's www.rudyschneider.com  sorry but what do you expect from a dumb ole lumberjack!


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Re: PGS Animation 2nd Try
« Reply #8 on: March 13, 2005, 04:30:02 AM »
As far as turning the machine into the wind, I thought I already accomplished that.


Oh!...Sorry...must have missed that part.

Yes I guess at 125 ft. that would be a

memorable event!

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TERRYWGIPE

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Re: PGS Animation 2nd Try
« Reply #9 on: March 20, 2005, 10:25:34 AM »
Can someone please explain to me how to get this demo into the "anim8ot" program so I can view it?


           Terry

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Re: PGS Animation 2nd Try
« Reply #10 on: March 20, 2005, 10:37:53 AM »
Terry,


In the first comment by Chagrin, he has kindly provided a link which you just need to click on to reach and see the animation.


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TERRYWGIPE

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Re: PGS Animation 2nd Try
« Reply #11 on: March 20, 2005, 11:42:30 AM »
When I click the link I just get script, I downloaded the anim8or software(which is cool), but still get script. I'm doing something wrong.


                     Terry

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jomoco

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Re: PGS Animation 2nd Try
« Reply #12 on: March 20, 2005, 12:04:04 PM »
Sorry you're having trouble Terry,


The anim8or software has nothing to do with being able to view the animation of the PGS. Just click on http://www.otherpower.com/images/scimages/3227/WindSail.wmv


If it doesn't work in this comment or in Chagrins comment, it may be due to the size of the file being too big for your computer or something like that.


I'm no computer expert, just a dumb ole lumberjack, still breaking my back to put food on the table!


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TERRYWGIPE

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Re: PGS Animation 2nd Try
« Reply #13 on: March 20, 2005, 06:55:39 PM »
Still getting just script, I'm no computer expert either so if I could see some diagrams of some sort. help.


             Terry


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   My uncle was a lumberjack(far from dumb)

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