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georgeodjungle

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it's a gas
« on: September 12, 2005, 06:10:51 AM »
i just got back from a world wind trip.

o.k.o.k. not the hole world.

to bad it was a working thing and thought i should let ya know.

air fairs are the same.

first i went to elko nv.not so bad for fuel all most 3 bucks.

then the big island.the same price all so.

and ensenada.

for like ever ! mexico has been 10 cents a gallon more then the usa.

but now it was 10 cents less.

even after converting liter to gal.

i don't know why?

can't explain it.

but it's a good time to go.

i'm going back in october "for fun" hope it stays low.

timming?

what's it like every where else?
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Ungrounded Lightning Rod

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Re: it's a gas
« Reply #1 on: September 12, 2005, 09:15:26 PM »
Fuel prices in the US are spiking due to the devastation on the Gulf Coast taking out a lot of domestic oil and oil product production.


Don't be surprised if they come down somewhat now that the rigs, refineries, and pipelines are coming back on line.  (Also:  Don't be surprised if they don't.  What a nice opportunity for the companies to make a few bucks - or make up repair expenses - by delaying price drops.)


Fuel prices outside the US are generally higher because of draconian taxes.  And though the oil market is worldwide they didn't get hit very hard (so far) by the disaster here:  We're refinery limited lately so buying up (and bidding up) foreign crude isn't a major of our outage.  (If the refinery capacity hadn't been taken out in proportion we WOULD have spiked the foreign prices, too, and seen less of an overall boost as foreign crude filled in some of the demand back here.)

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dalibor

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Re: it's a gas
« Reply #2 on: September 13, 2005, 07:22:58 AM »
in serbia fuel is twice expencive then in states. it is a dollar and 1/4 per liter.


why is it that? it not all in taxes, there is something in usa monopoly over world oil production control.


everywhere is oil, there are usa soldiers. no one could convince me opposite .

« Last Edit: September 13, 2005, 07:22:58 AM by dalibor »

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Re: it's a gas
« Reply #3 on: September 13, 2005, 09:25:56 AM »
Elko Nevada!

   thats my home town. I hope you didnt get gas at the cheveron right off the freeway they always overprice the gas ussually like ten cents more than the other stores in town funny that people still buy gas there.

  anyone who is interested i have built a similair windmill according to hugh piggotts design and i guess would like to sell it you can look at it in my files so yep
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BigBreaker

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Re: it's a gas
« Reply #4 on: September 13, 2005, 11:34:16 AM »
$1.25 per liter is equal to $4.73 per gallon.  That is about 50% more than in the US which is $3.30 per gallon.


HOWEVER - Serbia has a tax of about $1.75 per gallon.  US gas taxes are significantly lower ~ $.30.  The difference you see is taxes.


I could go on but as you said...  no one could convince you opposite.

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georgeodjungle

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Re: it's a gas
« Reply #5 on: September 13, 2005, 09:56:19 PM »
we used to live in sping crk in the 70s.

and still have some rentals.

the power went out wile i was there and it looked like the good old days,less all the cars.now it's like a big city.

i'd like to see your genny.

i should be up there in the next week or so.

i'd would be interested could ya email me on how much and phone #

georgeodjungle@hotmail.com

p.s. is home depot open yet.
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Re: it's a gas
« Reply #6 on: September 14, 2005, 03:16:50 AM »
Hmm is that a 4 quart gallon or a 5 quart gallon? USA is 4 quarts, Canada was 5 quarts, but now Canada is liters.


"US gas taxes are significantly lower ~ $.30"


Hmm, I don't think so. State and Fed taxes are much higher than that I am pretty sure.


Anyway funny thing about gas and oil prices, USA is cheaper gas than Canada and we buy Canada oil!

Like a few people mentioned when I was up there. Why is gas higher in Canada than the USA when the USA is buying their oil to make USA gas. Why is it not cheaper than USA since they have their own oil (and sell us the extra).


Good questions. Answer is it's all the government of the countries and also what the oil companies can get away with (which is also controlled by government)


As I have always said, supply and demand has nothing to do with it. Here we have Canada with Excess oil and lower demand but higher gas prices, then the USA guzziling all the oil it can get and buying it from Canada but then our gas prices are lower.


Did I just read a post here that said Mexico gas has always been 10 cents higher than USA prices? And how long have we bought Mexico oil??

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BigBreaker

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Re: it's a gas
« Reply #7 on: September 14, 2005, 09:07:29 AM »
I used google to convert liters to gallons.  I think it is 3.78 liters per gallon.


Federal gasoline taxes are $.184 per gallon.  State tax varies but $.30 is an OK estimate for the total but kinda low.  Call it $0.5 per gallon total if you like.  


Details here:  en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gasoline_tax


I forget where I got the data for Serbia but it was on google too.

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georgeodjungle

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Re: it's a gas
« Reply #8 on: September 14, 2005, 03:42:32 PM »
when you fill up your tank, in mexico, at the gas station ,is what i meant.

i buy it every time i go.


 

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nanotech

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Re: it's a gas
« Reply #9 on: September 27, 2005, 08:47:49 PM »
It all depends on where you are when you're talking about a gallon.


A US gallon is 3.785 litres.


The Imperial gallon (everywhere else in the world) is 4.55 litres.


So Americans paying $3.00 a gallon are getting it at the equivilant price of $3.61 for the rest of the world's gallons......

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elvin1949

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Re: it's a gas
« Reply #10 on: October 17, 2005, 07:15:16 AM »
Yes

 And my bicycle still get's 50 mile's to the hamburger.

 I quit driving in 1999 [if preaching conserving-

do so]it is 25 miles to the grocery store one way.

later

elvin

 
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