Author Topic: a BIG windmill (Read 2165 times)

spinner · « **on:** March 29, 2006, 05:36:34 PM »

this monster (judging by vehicles parked down below) MIGHT contain an interesting idea,or, suggest an interesting possibility if i am giving it's builder too much credit. (given that i have not seen my posts show up about it, i dare to presume that here is the correct place to mention it.

my point? IF those "spokes" (use image enhancement software) really are intended to be some sorta airfoils, would this be a lift/drag machine...if not, could some be fashoned and would they provide lift too?

if the image does not show up on here (i generally goof the image posting part up) it is in my files beginning with WHC3

spinner

DanB · « **Reply #1 on:** March 29, 2006, 01:22:27 PM »

I found your old posting and one of the editors blocked it...

its more appropriate here in diaries.

What an odd thing!! Seems like if those are blades, that it wouldn't be sweeping much area but its hard to say from the angle of the picture. Do you know the source of the picture or any place to find out more about it?

It amazes me how much funding finds its way to what seems like very odd/probably unworkable projects. Perhaps something like that gets built when some government employee sitting behind a desk somewhere decides to impulsively give away grant money or something...

MelTx · « **Reply #2 on:** March 29, 2006, 03:29:01 PM »

I dont see no cars... and why are the blades made 1 short 1 midle size & 1 long,in that pattern. Maybe be some high tech cultch people been looking for?...

DanB · « **Reply #3 on:** March 29, 2006, 03:50:34 PM »

Yes, thats right... I dont see cars either. I do see something like a back pack (or something to the right) - so its not that big...

I think all the blades are the same size, and there are three 'layers' of them, the 'smallest' ones being at the bottom.

David HK · « **Reply #4 on:** March 29, 2006, 03:52:29 PM »

Look more carefully. There are three doubles sets of guy wires attached to the top of the object.

This looks more like the first stage installation of some spinning machine used in circus shows which can be put up anywhere.

The question is - how was the photograph taken?

Dave HK

tinker · « **Reply #5 on:** March 29, 2006, 04:02:56 PM »

You need a side view to appreciate it

oztules · « **Reply #6 on:** March 29, 2006, 04:03:37 PM »

Pics of a vertical axis wind generator located in the Banning Pass, near

Palm Springs.

johnlm · « **Reply #7 on:** March 29, 2006, 04:22:12 PM »

From the looks of it I suspect it is pulled off an aerial photograph from Terra-server.

John

DanB · « **Reply #8 on:** March 29, 2006, 04:48:19 PM »

hmmm.. OK.

Ive seen that before - now it all makes more sense!

zap · « **Reply #9 on:** March 29, 2006, 05:42:32 PM »

The image looks like it has too much detail to be a shot from TerraServer.

The "back pack" actually appears to be steel drums holding down a tarp over some object or pile of something. If those drums are 55gal then the machine has a total span of around 51 feet, the cord of the supports (wings?) would be around 3.5 to 4 feet. Along the right hand side and up from the drums in the top right corner are what looks to be vehicle tracks. From the size of the tracks I'd say the drums are 55gal. This would seem to be a larger machine than the one tinker posted.

spinner · « **Reply #10 on:** March 29, 2006, 05:45:26 PM »

hiya Dan

i am gonna go back in my files and see where i got it, if i can; seems like it might have been some kinda water pump (not at all sure.)

about the posting: figured that out for myself when reading thru some posts about how things are gonna be run on the board.....nota problem; just happened that i'd posted before <L> i read it!

thanx

spinner

spinner · « **Reply #11 on:** March 29, 2006, 05:48:34 PM »

sorry mel

i have another view (actually just a clearer one) around here, somewhere, if i can find it...that one shows vehicles quite a way down below!

clutch? who knows...i just thought it was kinda interesting and passed it along just for that reason

thanx

spinner

spinner · « **Reply #12 on:** March 29, 2006, 05:52:00 PM »

oztules;

thanx..i would probably would not have have found it 'mongst my screwwy filing system!

spinner

spinner · « **Reply #13 on:** March 29, 2006, 05:53:52 PM »

guy wires? sharp eyes!

pic out of a plane or chopper?

thanx spinner

spinner · « **Reply #14 on:** March 29, 2006, 05:55:30 PM »

now all we all gotta figure out IS

was it built to be drag/lift

if not

could it be?

thanx

spinner

kitno455 · « **Reply #15 on:** March 29, 2006, 06:36:45 PM »

off to the left, is a man in a white coat and a hardhat, but the perspective is such that you cant use that for scale. the top of the tower is much closer to the camera than the man, so i would say its not as big as it looks. what i want to know is what is the black hole at 2:00?

allan

MattB · « **Reply #16 on:** March 30, 2006, 04:25:27 PM »

http://www.southcom.com.au/~jamesb/ultimate.htm

oztules · « **Reply #17 on:** April 01, 2006, 01:53:13 AM »

For more "information on this windstar thinggy" http://www.windharvest.com/windstar/video_modem.htm movie of construction of 530g model (pictured) 530 sq feet.

http://www.windharvest.com/windharvest/index.html index page of comapny. Looks like another hopeful in California. Long on hype, small on details.

maybe some ideas as you say..............oztules

finnsawyer · « **Reply #18 on:** April 01, 2006, 09:02:26 AM »

Windstar; Windstor? Are they the same? They're proposing to put Windstor units up around here that are supposed to be 66 feet in diameter and 166 feet up. How'd you like to have something like that flying next to the school your child or grandchild is attending. Scary!

oztules · « **Reply #19 on:** April 01, 2006, 08:00:29 PM »

Don't know about the similar names, but windstar (pictured 530g model) is bringing out their super dooper we've got it you havent type device, as described below in their jargon sheet

""The Windstar 1400 is a vertical axis turbine (VAWT) standing 50 feet high and 37.5 feet in diameter. It has two sets of eight twenty-foot blades stacked on top of each other that turn a central rotor. At ground level is a 75-kilowatt, off-the-shelf generator. Guywires provide additional stability in the highest winds. In 15 mph per year average wind speeds, the Windstar turbine produces 113,800 kW hours of power.""

This is their biggest newest (we'll build it someday ) wind turbine. It will have 1400 sq feet area.

I don't think it is the same device. I think also it is still in the "artists impression" image stage....ie no photo's yet.

............oztules

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Author Topic: a BIG windmill (Read 2165 times)