Author Topic: 4" rotor for the Mini 3 Phase Alternator  (Read 5248 times)

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s4w2099

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4" rotor for the Mini 3 Phase Alternator
« on: January 25, 2007, 03:48:17 AM »
Making this rotor was a pain. It is 4" in diameter and the magnets are N42 1x0.5x0.25 so you can imagine how packed are them in the rotor.  The base I used was a 4" cutting blade from home depot. I know the it is not ferromagnetic but since it was suposed to be a small alternator I did not mind too much.



The process was extenuating check the picture below:







Since the magnets wont stick to the surface of the cutting blade I had to epoxy them down and keep them separated with cartboard. The pulling force between them was incredibly great so I had to be careful with my fingers and with them crashing together. It felt like if I was fusing a bomb. After a FEW hours I finished positioning the magnets in their respective places. They where so close together that I had to put resin so that there would be no casualties (magnets flying off).







Note in this picture that in the inner part of the rotor the magnets are almost touching each other and that at such distance will cause **SOME** field cancelation. And please note the use of the word SOME. I think that the smallest rotor that you can make with this design would be 4.5" with the same magnet size but that would bring an increase in size of the stator.

Ohh dear once again I am letting the resin cure without baking it and its craking again. I must be using too much hardener or something.  Here is the Picture of the rotor.

The crack cant be seen in the rotor right now but I will have more pictures once the resin have cured.

I will be testing the performance of this thing tomorow morning I will keep you posted.

« Last Edit: January 25, 2007, 03:48:17 AM by (unknown) »

Jerry

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Re: mini mill
« Reply #1 on: January 24, 2007, 10:25:01 PM »
 Hi s4w2099


I helped my grandaughter do a school science project. For some reason she elected to do a small wind generator.


Its a 4" dual rotor. The discs are speaker backing plates. She used the same magnets 1"X1/2"X.25".


I'm intrested to see how yours preforms with  none steel discs.





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« Last Edit: January 24, 2007, 10:25:01 PM by Jerry »

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Re: mini mill
« Reply #2 on: January 25, 2007, 08:02:28 AM »
I will keep you posted.
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Re: mini mill
« Reply #3 on: January 25, 2007, 09:07:09 AM »
Hello Jerry.


Is that an operational mill?

Has it flown on a tower?


Thanks, Art.

« Last Edit: January 25, 2007, 09:07:09 AM by swmiwindnsolar »

Jerry

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Re: mini mill
« Reply #4 on: January 25, 2007, 09:21:39 AM »
Hi Art.


No it was just for her science fair. Although I did take it to the beach. I set it on a large rock. People were quite facinated with it. It has some LEDs the respond to each phase and one large red LED for all 3 phases. Quite a light show.


I've thought of flying it. Just never figured a good use for the small machine?


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Re: mini mill
« Reply #5 on: January 25, 2007, 02:12:11 PM »
you have more pictures of your design. Please post the so I can see it. It looks very well made.
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Re: Warning 11 Pitures.
« Reply #6 on: January 25, 2007, 10:28:43 PM »
Hi s4w2099.


Here are some pictures. I'll just post them. If you have any questions I'll answere latter.

















 





   











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Re: right picture I hope?
« Reply #7 on: January 25, 2007, 10:35:55 PM »
Whoops sorry, that last picture was the wrong one. I'll try that again.


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Re: Warning 11 Pitures.
« Reply #8 on: January 26, 2007, 01:35:24 PM »
Those are nice man!,

I am sorry to tell that my alternator did not work because its not a ferrous rotor surface. I have tested the same stator with other rotors and works very nice.

I will just use the same stator with another rotor. I just dont know where I can find a disk just like yours.

I dont find much information in the forum for this matter but because of the results ferrous rotors MUST be used.

If you guys have any clues please let me know.
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Re: Warning 11 Pitures.
« Reply #10 on: January 28, 2007, 04:01:14 AM »
sawblades......

should work great for your little mill..
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Re: Warning 11 Pitures.
« Reply #11 on: February 04, 2007, 11:04:03 AM »
Ok, I got it to work but there is nota good amount of charging current. You have to spin it at 1500 RPM to get it to do something.



At lower speeds is only good to light some LEDs. I guess that thats as much power that I can get out of it. I am a bit dissapointed to I am going to continue working on a 11" incher that I have.



I did learned a lot from making this little one. I realized that this size of an alternator is not very practical at all, at least with this design.



Thank you all for your help guys!!!



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« Last Edit: February 04, 2007, 11:04:03 AM by s4w2099 »