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BMN climate change, fiber intake, subjective memory
« on: January 07, 2008, 10:43:27 PM »


January 7th 2007

Good morning

Nice weekend here, if not a little Day after Tomorrowish. You know, the movie with Dennis Quaid where all the freaky weather happens and happens overnight. Yeah,  multiple tornadoes, massive hail storms followed by a mini-Ice Age, that sort of thing. I know what you are thinking: Brian watches too many movies. You're right, I do, but I also look out the window. Although my basis for what is real, and what is fiction, may be skewed because I read and watch a lot of science fiction, this shouldn't discount that something strange is in the air. I hope my thinking is just as healthy as the conservatives who seem to feel it is important to argue whether climate change is man made or natural. I also like to think that I'm not completely stupid, just a little naïve. Often I have said of myself that I'm blessed with enough knowledge to see a problem, yet not smart enough to do much about it. I'm sure I am not alone at this level of intelligence. So what? I can see that it is equally useless to argue about the cause of climate change, as convincing people global warming exists. Sigh. I have heard it said that climate change can be traced back to the invention of the thermometer. Brilliant and funny, but it doesn't address my point.

Oh, there's a point this morning?


Sorry, I was talking about the weather. Nell is in the hospital again. She went in on Friday, after a visit to her primary care physician for pain in her tummy. At this point the attending doctor is trying to rule out more serious intestinal conditions, by... well I don't need to go into detail. She is apparently blocked up inside. Why, they still do not know. We hope she'll be out today. Just to add to my inability to differentiate between reality and television, I watched network TV for the first time yesterday while visiting with Nell. Mainly we watched National Geographic channel, with its science shows. Everyone else must know more than us because as I've stated we haven't watched network TV... well, ever. Anyway they had a show on about chasing tornadoes. Ah, now we're getting somewhere. And how did this affect you Mr. Rodgers? To tell the truth, doctor, we really can't tell yet. Everything goes in and swirls around and my subconscious works out the details. What is real, and what is make believe, is a tough call on some of the more obscure thoughts, like weather.


As we talk about what is happening around us we should be reminded that memories aren't always reliable. Everything we store in our memory is subjective. Right, another science show, got us to talking about memory. Now, I can't be expected to write about all these crazy topics without a lot of outside stimuli. So feel free to step in here. If what we remember about the weather ten years ago is corrupted by our brains then how can we possibly think we know that it never rained in January here at 7500 feet above sea level? What we remember, it has been argued, often is the worst of the worst, with most people's memory being skewed in some direction, depending on more factors than I can count. To name a few memory embellisher's: Emotions, bad moods make rainy day memories, good moods make sunny day memories. Obviously I am no neural scientist, but like I said, I do have limited powers of observation, and with everyone on the BMN mailing list urging me to continue, my ego is elevated to a level where I am confident that I must be on to something. More subjective reasoning? Sure. This time it is your influence that caused me to wonder why we think they way we think.


I know, there I go getting all philosophical when we all know I'm just a greasy fingered mechanic. Nevertheless, here I am, talking the talk, wondering if anyone is following along. How does all this help? Why, if our memories are indeed subject to emotion as much as what we see and feel, do we bother debating? Let's say, I have it in my head that global warming is caused by air pollution. Someone else counters that climate change is normal. Another says change is change. Another tries to recall the last time it was like it was this weekend, but can't associate a past weather event with any particular personal partnering issue of consequence, so everything must be all right. And here we are. Arguing about something that in the end, we probably have no control over.


So, why, do I go on and on about global warming? I see no ill effect of corporations and Hollywood correlating humans with catastrophic global events. Of course companies are going to try and profit from green thinking. Let them. I think we are all smart enough to look at a box of cereal labeled "Healthy Choice" and read the ingredients anyway. Now I'll try and tie a little knot here. Nell just called, the hospital is letting her go in an hour. She has been instructed to eat more fiber. Alrighty then, now we all know Brian won't eat sugar, in fact I believe sugar is only just below money on the Root of All Evils list. Fiber is good, but cereal is either full of sugar or worse yet, Aspartame. If sugar is bad, where does this place Aspartame? I don't eat sugar because I don't like the associated mood swings. Look at the ingredients of cereal, the brands that say healthy use Aspartame instead of sugar. Go figure that one. Sugar just makes me feel like crap, but Aspartame has been documented turning into formaldehyde in the body. But it is in the healthy cereal??? The result of all this thinking and research? The only cereal out of the hundreds of brands and varieties with nothing but grain in the ingredients, is drum roll please... Kellogg Shredded Wheat and Shredded Bran. Now my question is how much fiber is in this cereal anyway? Has my objectivity been severely compromised by thinking about this too much?


No doubt.


Is the same thing happening to the discussions of climate change?


We don't live in the city, so we rarely see air pollution, does this make me objective for this topic?


What is my vested interest in what my fellow man does, if I live in paradise?

What would a person who grew up in the ghetto think of what I call home?


Questions and more questions.

When my honey gets home we will watch movies until sky freezes and falls down on us with the wrath of mother nature, but we'll be comforted by the fact that we imagined it all.

It always rained in January, you remember that, clearly as...


Bueno bye

Have a nice day.

Brian Rodgers


Contents


   1. Letters

         1. Re: BMN Evolution Wiki Deki

         2. time setting on server

         3. Yikes

         4. Platform

         5. Re: Going with the Wind

         6. I do think it is time for the newsletter to evolve.

         7. Everything caused by global warming

         8. ---------------

         9. Is Selfish Capitalism Driving Us Mad?

               1. Education is Ignorance

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        11. ABOUT ISUZU

   2. [wastewatts] International Comparison back to multimachine

   3. Bush Begins Preparations For Nation's Final Year

   4. From otherpower forums

   5. This is where Kevin Jessica and I went to the wind turbine workshop


Letters

Re: BMN Evolution Wiki Deki

Dear Brian:


I'm glad to see you're expanding qand changing your newsletter.  Whatever you do it'll probably be for the better.  Keep you good works up, and keep improving.  Right on!!

Mike Kitts

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time setting on server

 i logged in to mndtouch and created my page yesterday, jan 03, but the system is showing my activity as jan 04-

noting that it's at 63.230.102.xxx (the student-web server, que no?) reminds me that the time setting on that box has been off by a half-day or so and needing to be reset for quite a while-

now might be a good time to correct that, what with being between semesters and the new wiki going in and all...kind of confusing elsewise.


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Be here now.  Be somewhere else later.  Is that so complicated?

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Yikes


Thats not on the student web server ---- that thing has all kindsa

stuff on it, if VMWare is running on the the sys clock then maybe all

of Luna is off -- mail, webct, etc etc etc. ill get right on it.

thanks for the heads up

Adam

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Platform

What do you think of this platform?



  1. Stop the Iraq War, bring the troops home immediately.
  2. Implement a national health care system, single payer form.
  3. Design and Initiate a guaranteed income for all American families, working or not.
  4. Cap and REDUCE corporate profits and executive salary levels WHILE FOSTERING THE TRANSFER OF CORPORATE PRODUCTION, SERVICE, OWNERSHIP AND CONTROL TO WORKERS.
  5. Mandate labor union representation for all American workers to assure fair salaries and equal benefits.
  6. Implement a national housing plan for all Americans.
  7. Encourage fair trade over free trade and stop America's participation in NAFTA, CAFTA, WORLD TRADE ORGANIZATION, WORLD BANK, IMF, etc.
  8. Stop the gouging and ripoffs of consumers by legislating limits and caps for costs in services and products in the market place.
  9. Abolish poverty in all its forms in America by assuring every American family with the basics in income, health, education and housing.
  10. Promote a more equitable society by enhancing citizens rights and participatory control while requiring the private sector to practice and implement a fairer economic system of consumer costs, profit-margins and regulation and policing of its services and products.
  11. Reduce defense spending significantly in the areas of high tech and military equipment and weaponry while enhancing protections and benefits for the common soldier.
  12. Reinforce and enhance government support of the arts, sports and culture.
  13. Respect and assure the equal rights of all citizens, whether it be in the area of gender, race, age, sexual orientation or religion. Eliminate special privileges for any and all interest groups.
  14. Promote universal access to education on the college and vocational school level. Promote liberal arts, along with engineering and science, in colleges and universities. Remove the influence of corporate and military entities on our higher institutes of learning.
  15. Promote and enhance a multi-party system, public and fair access to debates and public funding of elections.
  16. Brian supports a woman's right to choose in matters of abortion; and opposes all restrictions on access to abortion.
  17. Brian opposes the U.S. embargo against Cuba, and calls for ending all travel restrictions to the island.


Obviously the above Brian is not you.

For those interested look for the answer on the NET

Henry S Rodgers

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Re: Going with the Wind

I have no desire to add wind to my system.  I would almost always prefer to add maintenance-free, long-lasting, passive, quiet photovoltaic panels with my dineros.  Wind generators are noisy mechanical devices with moving parts requiring despicable industrial lubricants, towers with guy wires, ladders, maintenance, raw knuckles, etc. etc.  Us folks who have been using PVs for close to 30 years would even generally prefer to have more panels instead of expensive sun-trackers with their bearings bushings, shock-absorbers and other moving parts.


If Nanosolar and other thin-film developers bring PV costs down to about $1 per watt, wind generation will be history except north of the Arctic Circle.


http://www.nanosolar.com/

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=5068518084821389332&q=nanosolar&total=22&start=0



&num=30&so=0&type=search&plindex=8


The weak link in home power - be it wind or solar - is lead-acid batteries.  Acid flooded batteries are a horrible component.  They cost at least $50-100 per year in depreciation.  They are gut-busters - that is they are bulky and very heavy.  That means shipping and handling are a significant part of the high cost.  Also they are explosively dangerous, require special containment and ventilation, destroy clothing, etc.   Most people buy only the batteries they needed when the batteries were new.  As batteries age and their capacity drops one can find that they didn't buy enough batteries in the first place to allow for deterioration.  As a rule, new batteries cannot (or should not) be added to existing battery banks after the original batteries are more than a year old.  Then a back-up generator may become essential.


Brian Rodgers wrote:


    Wow, a whole 100 watts in a 35 mile an hour wind???

    Hardly worth it.

    Bill if you want to add wind power to your solar and I think you should, come down and do a workshop with us and build yourself a wind turbine that can make 800 watts in a 15 mile an hour wind.

    Brian


        John B. Carnett


    Another Build: The $30 Open-Source Turbine

    Go to velacreations.com to find instructions for off-grid DIY'er Abe Connally's Chispito wind generator, a horizontal-axis-turbine design that more than 200 builders have built and helped perfect. Made entirely of salvaged parts, such as a treadmill motor and recycled sewer pipe, the Chispito can generate 100 watts in a 35mph wind. And if you're able to find all the supplies, you can build it for less than 30 bucks.


    Bill Reed wrote:


    http://www.popsci.com/popsci/how20/251509e7eec93110vgnvcm1000004eecbccdrcrd.html


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I do think it is time for the newsletter to evolve.

Was going to suggest calling it "The Society of New

Mexico Highlands Hippie Alumni who were too old for

College and Just Wanted to Stay in School Forever

Getting High" or something . . . .

Joe VR in Guam

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Everything caused by global warming

http://www.americanthinker.com/blog/...by_global.html

Or so it would seem regards,

Hugh

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Is Selfish Capitalism Driving Us Mad?

Brian, I thought you might enjoy this. I don't buy it entirely, and I

won't post it because it's so long, but there's definitely food for

thought here.


http://www.alternet.org/workplace/72496/


Education is Ignorance


Here's another you might like. Chomsky points out that the supposed

hero of Reganism, Adam Smith, in fact was something of a liberal

socialist, and that his ideas have been distorted, misquoted, and

plain lied about by the conservative movement. Again, I won't post it

as it's too long. Your decision. Also, good luck with the wind power

experiment. If the dollar goes to $#|+, you may be the only poor

person in New Mexico that can afford electricity.


http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article19001.htm


The Reagan political philosophy - "I'm rich - fv(k you."


Wesley

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ABOUT ISUZU

HI BRIAN,


Sorry, my english is so bad!!! I´m from Uruguay,


I read in a forum page, about your post "i for one would like to hear how you are going to increase the power of C223T by that much.Brian Rodgers "


http://biodiesel.infopop.cc/eve/forums/a/tpc/f/869108403/m/7191095341


My husband  buy a Land Rover Year 55, 86 Inch, with a engine ISUZU C223T..... but dont have a service or technical manual !!!


We search in internet... without results.....   Have you a service manual fot C223t ? If you have, can you send me a email with one digital copy ?


tks a lot


Yoly

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Yes I can send you a service manual

Let me finish what I am doing and find it

Get back to you soon.

Brian Rodgers

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[wastewatts] International Comparison back to multimachine

Thanks Tim.

Actually it was a rhetorical question. With all the talk of getting

back on topic, I think maybe we better leave this.

Hey, that multimachine group is pretty wild huh? At first I couldn't

believe my eyes. Then I downloaded the how to build a multimachine

from an old engine block.

Very encouraging to see what people can do when pressed. Did you see

the image of the guy welding with a transformer and a couple dozen

sheets of raw copper for a power supply?


On Jan 5, 2008 7:13 AM, Tim <timfromtamail.com wrote:<p>
HI Brian,

 Health care is provided by the state in the UK, they have a system called

 the NHS or National Health Service. I understand that most people in the UK

 do not pay health insurance, I am not a UK resident anymore and so am open

 to correction on this.


 Tim


 On Jan 5, 2008 12:15 PM, Brian Rodgers <brians.outmail.com wrote:<p>
  Ken you didn't mention health care costs. Americans spend as much as

  $1000.00 per month on health insurance. That's a big piece of our pay

  checks.


  On Jan 5, 2008 4:55 AM, Ken Boak <ken.boagmail.com wrote:

  Bobby, Jerry, List,


  You are right in your observations that we pay more for our goods and

  services in Europe.


  With the pound being equivalent to almost 2 dollars, the reality is

that

  our

  prices are approaching twice those paid in the states.


  This can be applied almost across the whole spectrum, especially in

  renewable energy equipment such as solar pV arrays, inverters,

  batteries,

  wind turbines etc.


  Fortunately, a lot of this equipment is now coming from China, and so

it

  is

  more cost effective to directly import it.


  To pay for the average European lifestyle (if there is such a thing),

we

  have a minimum wage of approximately 11 USD per hour, but in reality,

  the

  average professional is likely to be earning close to $80,000 per year,

  or

  about $5000 per month after tax and deductions.


  We have a lot of migrant labour in Britain, especially Polish and other

  Eastern Europeans. The Polish are particularly well educated (often

with

  college education) and speak good English, but unfortunately often end

  up

  on low pay, serving in restaraunts and bars and in the constuction

  industry.


  Most Europeans hold passports and travel freely between the European

  member

  countries, with southern Europe (Spain, Portugal, France, Italy,

Greece)

  being popular holiday destinations.


  With rising house prices, couples in their 30s and 40s, are paying

  between

  $1500 and $2000 per month mortgage on their property. A 1000 sq foot

  house

  sells in this area for between $500,000 and $750,000.


  Some newly built, 3 bedroom "terraced" houses, just 300 yards from here

  sold for about $675,000 - they were about 850sq ft, with a 15' x 40'

  backyard, and a front drive so small that you could only park 1 car on

  it -

  no garage.


  In Britain, the "average" family property is a 3 bedroom house of

  approximately 1000 sq ft. - but this is getting smaller, as more

compact

  apartments and smaller houses are being built. In European cities, the

  apartment is more common.


  After the mortgage payment, we have a sneaky tax called council tax -

  that

  pays for local services such as our police force, law courts, our

refuse

  collection, our street lighting, our state education and our local

  infrastructure. It is based on the size of your property, and it is in

  the

  order of $260 per month in my area for a 1000sq ft house, but 10 miles

  north

  of here, where the local government is more wasteful, it is about $360

  per

  months for a similar sized property.


  Our food prices in the UK are higher than those in the US. Typically

  double.


  Our energy prices are now over $8 per US gallon for gasoline, $8.25 for

  diesel, 0.20 per kWh for electricity and 0.06 per kWh for natural gas (

  $18.70 per 1000cu ft). Our home heating oil, this week when I checked,

  is

  $3.35 per US gallon.


  An average UK home will spend about $2000 per year on gas and

  electricity

  and then about $600 on water and sewerage charges.


  One of our major energy companies yesterday announced a 17.2% rise in

  the

  price of natural gas and a 13% rise in the cost of electricity.


  Our public transport is fairly pitiful unless you live within about 40

  miles

  of London, or are close to a mainline railway station. I am 20 miles

  from

  London, and an annual rail commuter ticket (2007 price) was $3780 or

  about

  $17 per day for the 225 working days in the year.


  Most people drive, often with 2 or more cars per household. The main

car

  is

  likely to be doing 12,000 miles per year, and the 2nd car about 6000

  miles

  per year.


  Our cars do tend to be smaller and more fuel efficient - about 33mpg

  (US)

  for a 2 litre gasoline car and about 45mpg (US) for a 1.9 litre diesel.


  It appears that the new diesel "Mini" is capable of 59mpg (US), and the

  new

  VW Polo Bluemotion manages 60mpg (US)


  http://www.volkswagen.co.uk/company/press/feb06_bluemotion


  Things in Europe are by no means perfect - but you learn to make the

  best

  of

  your lot.


  Ken


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Brian Rodgers

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Brian (and interested others),


I have links for homebuilt welders, spot, arc and tig, made from old

microwave oven transformers and other scrap. It is amazing how inventive

people can be with crap laying around them! The Multimachine and the

Gingery machines are prime examples.

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Nick,


Would you share those links please? I have a friend who is looking for spot welder plans.


Thanks,


Chris

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Yeah home built spot welders. I too am interested.

I don't care what they say about Wastewatts (too much political talk)

This place keeps getting more and more interesting for me.

My new years resolution is to begin building a workshop. With veggie

oil being in the news (negatively) so much and rightly so, I think

I'll pass on the Lister and Babbingtion ball in my shop.  I think I'll

stick with biomass (firewood) and build a CHP system for the shop.


My friend Kevin and I went to Otherpower's axial flux (Type of DIY

alternator) wind turbine workshop in northern Colorado in December.

Their shop is off-grid as are all the homes up there, these guys are

seriously resourceful and a great inspiration. Not only do they have

the 20 foot wind turbine making juice, a Lister-pettier, Solar (PV)

and a steam engine! All with Axial Flux alternators. Man you should

have seen the steam engine work, puff, puff, puff, puffing out a

steady 2 kilowatts! I have some pictures, and I think if you search

http://youtube.com for otherpower they have lots of videos.


P.S. I am sorry to hear Steven Brightwood  got booted, although, I

didn't agree with his view of the world, I enjoyed the way he

expressed himself. I have to assume something happened in one of the

threads I suggested people ignore if they didn't like what was being

said, so I missed it. Personally I try to stick to the group topics,

if I do stray, I keep it short and try not to worry that I have the

last word.


Cheers, and happy building

Brian

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He was deliberately insulting and baiting other members. Everyone was

notified that we would not allow that behavior.


Steve Spence

http://www.green-trust.org

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I agree that his behaviour left a little to be desired, but it is upsetting

to see a resourceful friend and neighbour booted nevertheless.

Tim from Tang

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The multimachine is a junk yard dogs dream!

Here is the link to Yahoo groups Multimachine

Description

Welcome PM readers!

Don't miss the old PM articles in "files". You can't build a "free" MM without them. Also... Casting bushings etc. is vital! Check "links".


The MultiMachine is an accurate all-purpose machine tool that can be used as a metal or wood lathe, end mill, horizontal mill, drill press, wood or metal saw or sander, surface grinder and sheet metal "spinner". It can be built by a semi-skilled mechanic using just common hand tools. For machine construction, electricity can be replaced with "elbow grease" and all the necessary material can come from discarded vehicle parts. It can be built in a closet size version or one that would weigh 4 or 5 tons.


What can it be used for in developing countries?


Building and repairing water and irrigation pumps and farm implements. Building steel-rolling-and-bending machines for making fuel efficient cook stoves and hundreds of other products.

Rebuilding vehicle parts.

Providing "hands on metalwork training on student-built MultiMachines that they take with them when they leave school.


How can one machine do all this?


In almost every kind of machining operation, either the work piece or the cutting tool turns. If enough flexibility is built into these functions, the resulting machine can do almost every kind of metal working operation that will physically fit.


How can it be accurate?

Since cylinder bores are bored parallel to each other and at exact right angles to the cylinder head surface, accuracy begins at the factory where the engine block is produced. This precision is maintained during construction with simple cylinder re-boring of the #3 cylinder to the size of the roller bearing or cast bushing outside diameter.


The spindle can be as simple as a piece of pipe machined to fit the inner diameter of the bearings.


Can't afford outside machine work? We have ways around that also!


Unique spindle and plate clamps make construction simple and accurate.


Be sure to read the "How to Build" book in "Files"

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Bush Begins Preparations For Nation's Final Year

January 5, 2008 | Issue 44*02


WASHINGTON--As his last term in office winds to a close, President Bush has directed White House aids and Cabinet staff to begin preparing for 2008, the nation's 232nd and final year in existence.

"My fellow Americans, it has been an honor to be your last president," said Bush during a televised address Tuesday, assuring citizens he would do everything possible over the next few months to promote a smooth transition into utter oblivion. "I want you all to know that I do not intend to let what precious little time we have left go to waste. That's why I ask all citizens to pull together and follow me, so we can accomplish everything we've ever wanted to before it all crumbles around us in a terrible belch of smoke and ash."

Added Bush, "It's now or never, people. No regrets."

As part of his ambitious 11-and-a-half-month plan, Bush has prioritized winning the War on Terror in order to secure Iraq's stability in a world where the U.S. is nothing more than a fleeting memory. Additionally, he has urged Congress to block upcoming stem-cell legislation "just in case," and has set aside the months of April and May to get in touch with all countries the U.S. has wronged in the past and apologize, and default on America's $9.16 trillion dollar international debt with a wild spending spree,


respectively.



Enlarge Image Bush Begins Preparations For Nation's Final Year

A special executive committee has also been formed to draft the country's final words.

In response to critics who claim Bush is a lame duck and plans to pass the responsibility of helplessly watching the collapse of society onto the next president, Bush said he is "still the commander in chief," and remains dedicated to solidifying America's legacy before the darkness takes hold.

"I am committed to making this the best damn Swan Song the world has ever seen," said Bush, after enclosing a copy of the Constitution and a recipe for corn dogs in an air-tight titanium capsule to be placed just across the Canadian border. "I know this looks like the end--and it is--but I intend to go out with a bang. Now, who's with me?"

The president held a special America Wrap-Up press conference with members of the international press earlier today, where he spoke frankly with reporters and gave out long, heartfelt hugs. Bush also took time from his hectic schedule of staring blankly into the gaping maw of absolute dissolution to reflect on the country's past and look forward to its 281-day future.

"Our great nation will be a shining, then blinking, then slowly fading beacon to the world," Bush said. "As our time as a sovereign country with borders and currency comes to a close, let us hope we will be remembered for all the great things we accomplished, and not for the 1960s."

"We sure did have some good times, didn't we?" Bush added.

To help the members of Congress pass the time until both houses are a jagged shell of concrete and marble, looted of valuables by roving bands of nomadic warlords to sell for spears and kerosene, Bush submitted to the Senate a short list of what he called "Dream Projects" to be carried out in the tenuous weeks following Dec. 9, 2008. The nation's last acts include approving one final all-encompassing tax break, launching a nationwide skydiving initiative, reducing carbon emissions by 1 percent over the next decade, and writing his memoirs.

Members of the Bush Administration have consulted with top officials from the CIA, the FBI, NASA, the USDA, the Centers for Disease Control, noted scholars on the myth of Narcissus, a Chernobyl survivor, and the International Atomic Energy Agency to determine if the U.S. will indeed have time to carry out its final wishes. Bush, however, has instructed all Americans "not to get [their] hopes up."

The Democrats, who will hold a majority in the House and Senate until the rule of law is supplanted by an especially savage series of blood feuds, have promised to work with the president for whatever it's worth.

"None of that matters now, don't you see?" Speaker of the House Nancy Pelosi said. "What will it matter how many Kyoto Protocols we didn't sign or whether we're going to invade Iran in March? Have any of you ever seen a sunset--I mean really seen it?"

While Congress continues to assist the president as we hurdle toward what is known in Norse mythology as Ragnarök or "Doom of the Gods," some have expressed anger at Washington's perceived unwillingness to take action in the face of the coming wall of fire.

"Are we just going to sit back and wait for January?" said Chelsea Furlong, a Tennessee resident and uninsured mother of three. "That's going to take forever. My branch is closing next month--can't we just get it over with then?"


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From otherpower forums

This is where Kevin Jessica and I went to the wind turbine workshop


We played music for about 5 hours.


Hats off to Seamus.  He's a natural.. he's our rhythm section.  (notice the tambourine on the floor that he uses)


Tom White is building a 20' turbine just like mine.  Pictured above is one of his magnet rotors.


Finished metal work for a new 20' wind turbine.


Detail from the back side.  On mine we made the stator bracket from 3/8" steel and I never put gussets on the 'arms'.  This one is quarter inch steel and we put gussets on them.  In the end its probably lighter weight and stronger.  Also notice the 'box' we built to hold the tail pivot on - it's about the same as mine...

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« Reply #1 on: January 07, 2008, 05:35:05 PM »
ummm dude switch to light or better yet root beer.
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Re: BMN climate change, fiber intake, subjective m
« Reply #2 on: January 07, 2008, 08:18:09 PM »
I enjoy your diary here Brian - thank you for sharing it!  (most light beer sucks and root beer has way too much sugar)
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« Reply #3 on: January 07, 2008, 08:45:06 PM »
Dan

 I agree

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« Reply #4 on: January 07, 2008, 09:24:20 PM »
Agreed, some interesting content here, but appears to contain emails (posts?) by people other than Boss, in non-threaded fashion, which makes making sense out of the whole huge block of text a challenge. This appears to be a repost of some sort of mailing list or blog, complete with replies, which confuses me.


I kinda like Brian's blog, I feel a kinship to him, we're close geographically and I like the projects he's working on. But is it really appropriate to repost a blog, complete with responses in a Fieldlines diary? This seems like total weirdness to me, but I'm all ears to why it is good, if someone can explain it to me.


 

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« Reply #5 on: January 07, 2008, 10:32:30 PM »
Sorry about the format.

This is a copy of my morning newsletter, up until a few days ago it has been a private newsletter. I've been producing it daily for friends and family for eight years. Lately with the surge in blogs on the net I have decided to try and make it public. We are currently rebuilding my website http://outfitnm.com when it is done it will have a place for my newsletter in a forum format.


My life it seems is in constant flux. Two years ago I closed down my computer shop, the last vestige of my life in the service sector. During these two years, I have focused my efforts on renewable energy with my first efforts doing biodiesel and switching all our vehicles over to diesel powered. Not long ago, as I looked at new forms of renewable energy, I came across wind power. Dan B and Dan F found me and I got the local community college to sponsor a trip to the Otherpower workshop. I feel these men know what it is all about. They invited me to the forum, and after I posted an excerpt from one of my newsletters, Tom informed that it would be more appropriate to use the diary for my type of comments.


Again sorry about the long post. Until my website is up and running and if you all don't mind I'll post only what I write in my diary. I love forums, I write often. Thanks for listening.

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« Reply #6 on: January 08, 2008, 08:55:16 AM »
Do you love money?  I believe the true saying is, "The love of money is the root of all evil."  I don't know where that leaves the Devil.  Oh yeah, he's a Muslim.
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« Reply #7 on: January 08, 2008, 06:59:28 PM »
And YA,


 I think direct ties to any political party, such as the only picture that shows up(on this posting) is quite juvenile... most here, try to stick to the subject matter 'homebrewed electricity'(yes, the same people make the beer).


Honestly, Ive been here for several years, most of my projects are steam related, ive actually built or worked with many different projects. But theres always plenty of time to make a wind-turbine(around here atleast).


 Im sure that I will get to it sooner or later, the point im tring to make, is that, we all learn from each others projects, and the free consulting that goes on around here. But its always cave-eat emptor.


Even though I am republican, GW does look like the devel, there.


:) :) :) :) :) :) :)


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« Reply #8 on: January 08, 2008, 09:14:41 PM »
I think all of the images linked to my web page are missing at the moment as we are switching from CSS based HTML to Joomla content based web pages. http://www.joomla.org/

Joomla looks good we installed a forum component at lunch but right now it looks like it is down completely. http://outfitnm.com

The Bush story came from http://www.theonion.com/content/index very funny stuff there

todays headlines:  Report: American Schools Trail Behind World In Aptitude Of Child Soldiers

Child Soldiers


01:32AM ET


A shocking new study finds U.S. children lag far behind their international peers in subjects like rifle assembly and mine defusing.

I always add some humor in with the research I am doing with renewable energy

Keeps the muggles reading about important stuff http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Muggle

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« Reply #9 on: January 09, 2008, 02:47:56 AM »
Hello,


it is somewhat illuminating to read this kind of diaries.


Something how I'm understanding these discussions.


1)


For outsiders politics and media campaigns in America are sometimes quite hard to understand especially politics related to this 'climate change' issue.


The whole matter maybe started as a kind of controversy between some republicans and some democrats how to deal with energy issues?


I think that some twenty years back Americans used to think that there are only two ways in a big scale to increase power supplies. Either to build more nuclear power stations or to build more coal operated power plants.


Both of these big scale power systems have got their problems and their supporters started blaming each others pointing out those problems.


Mainly with both systems the main problems are what to do with wastes; with nuclear power plants there are as well safety issues involved with possible accidents.


Supporters of nuclear power plants probably then also increasingly started blaming coal power plants for creating other kinds of problems, including the possibility of 'a climate change' by increasing the amount of the carbon dioxide in the atmosphere, because of 'the enhanced greenhouse effect'.  


2)


The scientific evidence for such 'a climate change' is quite meager. If the earth's average temperature is calculated by using 'the greenhouse effect' only, the result is about 77 Celsius degrees. The real measured temperature is about 14,5 Celsius degrees. So there are other effects, which are greatly reducing 'the greenhouse effect'.


On the other hand these effects are providing quite big known and possible natural variations. These effects include clouds and winds circulating clouds and water vapor around. One special difficulty is that there isn't as yet any mathematics to calculate directions or powers of winds, maybe never will be. Also there are not good theories to explain creations of clouds.


The calculated 'enhanced greenhouse effect' by increasing the amount of the carbon dioxide in the atmosphere is about 0,4 - 1,2 Celsius degrees by doubling the amount of the carbon dioxide and calculating the result by using 'the greenhouse effect' only. The controversy concerns mainly the possible side effects, if they would increase or decrease the output in the atmosphere.


Defenders of the increased effect, like IPCC people are telling that 'the enhanced greenhouse effect' by the increased carbon dioxide would increase the amount of the water vapor and reducing the snow cover of the earth etc. and by that way increasing the greenhouse effect.


Defenders of the opposite opinion are pointing out that the evidence is telling just the opposite, the effect of increased carbon dioxide has failed to increase the temperature such a way, which would prove these positive side effects. The evidence is telling that the side effects are negative, reducing the effect the increased carbon dioxide. The measured effects of the increased water vapor in the atmosphere are telling that temperatures have not increased according to the supporters of the 'positive side effects', increased cloud covers are reducing the effects of the increased carbon dioxide under the line of measuring, etc.


Still maybe the best article to start with these discussions is an old one by a well-known 'skeptic', Richard S. Lindzen:


http://www.cato.org/pubs/regulation/regv15n2/reg15n2g.html


- Hannu

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« Reply #10 on: January 09, 2008, 09:22:52 AM »
It was reported in the local paper that Cleveland Cliffs Iron Company that runs iron mines here and in Minnesota has purchased a company that produces a type of fuel pellet from corn husks and the like.  CCI wins because the bio-pellets produce less pollution than using coal in their iron pelletizing process.  I assume the producers and suppliers of the bio materials also win.  I mention this because it shows that companies following their own self interest are more likely to accomplish something worthwhile than the Government.  
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« Reply #11 on: January 10, 2008, 12:29:19 AM »
Brian

 I read it and enjoy the diverision.

No complaint's here.

later

Elvin
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« Reply #12 on: January 10, 2008, 07:40:33 AM »
Thank you Elvin

I mostly stay on topic, rarely talk politics, mostly talk about low tech living in a high tech world as I have been doing since I turned on, tuned in, and dropped out, back in the 60's
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« Reply #13 on: January 10, 2008, 11:10:03 PM »
Brian

 I never dropped back in.I'm so far back in the boonies a game warden stopped in my front yard

the other day.I went out to see what he wanted,

he was looking at a map.

 I asked what he wanted.He wanted to know where i came from because my place was not on his map.

Laughed my ass off cause i have been here for 27 yr's,na almost 28 yr's [1979].

later

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« Reply #14 on: January 12, 2008, 05:31:15 AM »
That's funny.

My cousin was a game warden, he told me lots of stories, generally they get real nervous when they meet people out in the middle of nowhere. One time he was confronting two hunters he was on horse back as were they, after a few questions, one of the hunters asked if a gun wasn't usually kept in the holster? My cousin looks down to find that his .357 wasn't where it belonged. A bit of red faced back tracking and he found the pistol in a creek. Good thing it was shiny stainless steel.  
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