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commanda

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baby PMA
« on: April 30, 2008, 03:55:02 AM »
So I salvaged some steel rotors from the plasma cutter offcuts at work.

105mm dia by 8mm thick.


Each rotor has 6 magnets, 20mm dia by 10mm high N45.

The coils will be 5 of (5 phase). Each phase individually rectified then wired in series for a 24 volt system.


Not visible in this first photo, but at the center of each potted magnet rotor is a 16mm nut welded to the rotor.


The 3rd rotor holds the solid rubber tire. This will run against the circular plywood baseplate of the Lenz2.


A quick test with a 12 turn test coil gave 0.1 volts ac at 195 rpm. From this I figure approx 350 turns per coil (0.5 or 0.6mm wire) for a cutin of 300rpm, and approx 45 watts at 600 rpm (0.5mm wire). Will do a better test coil before proceeding.


The air gap is 12mm. Stator will be 10mm thick and each coil cross-section will be 10mm by 10mm. Sideways gap between magnets is just over 20mm.


If the Lenz2 is 2 foot diameter, with a TSR of 1, wind at 10Km/Hr (2.7 m/s) should give 88 rpm. The 5inch dia rubber tire will give a gear-up of approx 5:1, giving an alternator rpm of 440rpm.



Amanda

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Re: baby PMA
« Reply #1 on: April 30, 2008, 02:17:31 AM »
I love the idea and will follow  further comments with interest.

My thoughts:

The coils may be tricky to wind/fit at such a size?

Stator might get pretty hot without a good cooling design?


Frictional losses with rubber tyre drive, maybe you could also experiment with a 3 to 4 foot diameter propeller as a HAWT also(directly driven).


I hope it works.


Good luck

Ben.

« Last Edit: April 30, 2008, 02:17:31 AM by gotwind2 »

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Re: baby PMA
« Reply #2 on: April 30, 2008, 05:20:34 AM »
  its interesting i must say.

 it will be like the old type bottle dynamo that rubs on a bike wheel.

  thats why gotwind is so interested .

 i will also be fallowing it with interest .

  just think you could fit it to a motor bike wheel to keep you going if the motor

 bike gen failed . i mean a 12 volt one.

  good idea for a dessert island .
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Re: baby PMA
« Reply #3 on: April 30, 2008, 06:35:44 AM »
I've used threaded rod and the way I got it to run true was to mill nut faces install them bearing to bearing .
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Re: baby PMA
« Reply #4 on: April 30, 2008, 01:30:16 PM »
I was hoping for more thoughts/ideas on this interesting (to me at least) project.

'Flux' amongst all the other experts.


Ben.

« Last Edit: April 30, 2008, 01:30:16 PM by gotwind2 »