On this subject of birds and turbines I have noticed something quite strange. I live in rural England, and in my front garden, which overlooks farmland, I have a rotor(no alternator attached), and it's been up for about four years. It's about eight foot high, and I use it to test my gutter blades and furl and yaw ideas. The point I want to bring up is that I have never seen a bird perch on any part of the rotor, even when there is no wind and nothing is moving. It doesn't scare the birds away, I have even had blue tits nesting in a box attached to my garage only fifteen feet away. But never have I had a bird settle on the rotor, which has a tubular furling tail arm that would make a very nice perch in still air. I am at home and in the garden most of the day, and it is full of birds that take no notice of me, so I am not scaring them away from the rotor. I find it strange that what is sometimes a perfect perch for birds is ignored by them. The largest blades I have had on the rotor are only half a metre long, so it's not too intimidating, and at the moment the blades are only half that size. Have any members experienced the same thing with their turbines?