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mattg

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micro hydro update
« on: July 13, 2009, 09:57:44 PM »
We've been working on our generator for our hydro scheme. Heres a blow by blow account:


Cast magnet disk with 8 neodymium magnets. Held with super glue to brake disk and then potted with polyester resin, with a layer of fibre glass mat on top to reduce risk of damage. We tested the aptitude of the glass mat by letting lots of metal tools hit it really hard...

Heres a photo: http://photos-d.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc1/hs158.snc1/5896_637878390041_61015191_38940443_867659_n



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Fixed magnet disk to hub. We got a  garage to help with the removal of the hub nut- next time we will loosen it before taking the assembly off the car. The hub was greased and reassembled such that it span freely.

Made test rig to determine turns required per coil. Bike computer used to measure RPM, span rig with power drill.

Heres a photo: http://photos-g.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc1/hs158.snc1/5896_637878509801_61015191_38940454_848323_n



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Six coils were then produced with 65 turns, two in hand 1.4mm wire. This was done with reference to HP and the results of the tests. Designed such that we could run at 12V (400RPM ish) or 24V (800 RPM ish) so that the stator could still be useful if not used in this project.


The coils were then cast into a polyester stator using a wooden mould. All starts and ends of coils were routed out of stator so that they could be connected in any combination.

The stator was then mounted on the frame, and the second rotor disk (no magnets) was lowered into place to give an air gap of around 18mm (stator = 12mm thick, 3mm clearance either side). The machine was spun with a power drill- the first rough test results are below- it actally worked!! (though maybe not perfectly yet).  Halogen bulbs (12V 50W) were used to load the generator, connected through a 3 phase bridge rectifier. The generator was connected in star with two coils in series per phase.


Generator test- no load     


speed (rpm)    Voltage (V)       



  1.             12.2          
  2.             14.2          
  3.             20          
  4.             21          
  5.             24          
  6.             28.3          
  7. bulb (current = 4A)          
  8.             12         
  9. bulbs (50W each) in parallel               
  10.             6.5            15 Amps approx.


Heres a link to a photo: http://photos-c.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc1/hs138.snc1/5896_637878644531_61015191_38940466_1212478_



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Things we have discovered:

-When assembling the generator we found that a drill press/pillar drill is essential to ensure all holes are drilled perpendicular.

-The coils could be wound tighter to fit within the arc of the magnets better.

-When cleaning up the stator after moulding, careful not to sand through any wires.

-A bit of wood is useful to protect the rotor from wayward spanners.

-Being a perfectionist in this situation would be good, as would the ability to measure something accurately.

-Having a big workshop and people to make stuff with is super fun.


So....anyone got a good source of decent pelton cups or complete pelton wheels?

Hertha, Matt, Andy and co.  

p.s. hope the photos work, if not we'll upload them at some point.

« Last Edit: July 13, 2009, 09:57:44 PM by (unknown) »

spinningmagnets

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Re: micro hydro update
« Reply #1 on: July 13, 2009, 06:26:55 PM »
You might consider buying one Pelton cup that is the right size for your application, and then use it to create a mold. Aluminum is not difficult to cast, and there are several sites with many pics showing how to use the lost wax process.


The melted wax can be re-used, and any aluminum that is cast poorly can be re-melted and re-cast. Perhaps also consider a turgo, as the blades can be cut from sections of stainless steel hydraulic tubing.

« Last Edit: July 13, 2009, 06:26:55 PM by spinningmagnets »

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Re: micro hydro update
« Reply #2 on: July 13, 2009, 09:54:46 PM »
You are using grease for your bearings you can also use an oil instead of grease if you are in a colder climate. It will give you less drag but check on the proper seals. Just an idea.
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Re: micro hydro update
« Reply #3 on: July 13, 2009, 11:42:02 PM »
nice work....

looks like the coils are kinda big-for that size of rotor--lots of overhang...

looks great otherwise...................
« Last Edit: July 13, 2009, 11:42:02 PM by hiker »
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