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Help needed
« on: February 20, 2010, 11:37:04 AM »
Hi I was recently given a whisper 600 back from the world power days. Electricly it tested fine but had bad bearings. stripped it down, cleaned it up, and replaced bearings. While putting it back together I would like to replace the brushes. Of course swwp dosnt have parts and no longer supports the older modles. I havent been able to find anything like this on the internet, (or something simmular) that might work. Does anybody here have any idea where to get solder on brush pads or other ideas that might work?  Thanks (trying to attach page from manual) I cna't seem to attach it here, I did upload it to my files but only shows in my photo uploads, not in my files. Please help admin. I will try again later.


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there you go
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Re: Help needed
« Reply #1 on: February 20, 2010, 12:44:27 PM »
THANK YOU KURT !!
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Re: Help needed
« Reply #2 on: February 20, 2010, 01:21:04 PM »
Don't have any idea if this will help but a quick search found this.

http://www.southlandelectric.com/contact_kits.htm

Googled: contactor replacement parts

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Re: Help needed
« Reply #3 on: February 20, 2010, 01:26:23 PM »
Is the brush material worn thin? What do the brushes run on? Brass rings?
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Re: Help needed
« Reply #4 on: February 20, 2010, 01:38:37 PM »
Hi, Slip rings seem to be brass, brushes seem to be carbon on cooper so it can be soldered on. The carbon is getting thin.
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Re: Help needed
« Reply #5 on: February 20, 2010, 01:43:19 PM »
Thanks, a search of there site didn't come up with any brushes. Seems to be mostly contactors for motor starters and switchgear.
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Re: Help needed
« Reply #6 on: February 20, 2010, 02:05:41 PM »
Hi


Would it be posible to use ordinary brushes filed to size and bonded on with coloidial silver epoxy.


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Re: Help needed
« Reply #7 on: February 20, 2010, 02:44:27 PM »
Might try taking one of the sets to a motor shop.

It may be a semi-common, or only semi-obscure, brush.

Or they may be able to figure something out with what is available.

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Re: Help needed
« Reply #8 on: February 20, 2010, 03:49:37 PM »
if all else fails


take a new brush, from something bigger


carefully with a specially prepared hacksaw blade or a dremel tool


cut a groove on each side of the brush


then from a hobby shop or maybe a scrap piece of copper sheet, cut out

the backing plates and leave enough to foldup and into the grooves in the brush

then carefully tweak down the excess to trap the brush and lock it to the backing copper backing plate


tin and sweat to  your old support arms.


if it were me i would make them slightly larger to get more friction area.


if i knew how to post a picture or rather a jpeg i could illustrate the process

much easier, a pic worth a 1000 words as they say.


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Re: Help needed
« Reply #9 on: February 20, 2010, 03:58:39 PM »
If it were me I'd polish up the brass rings and put it together, the carbon likely wears at a very slow rate, check them in a year and see if there is any wear.
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Re: Help needed
« Reply #10 on: February 20, 2010, 04:16:35 PM »
maybe this will work, i have no clue how to post a jpeg to the forum


http://www.fieldlines.com/user/bob%20g/files


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Re: Help needed
« Reply #11 on: February 20, 2010, 04:43:26 PM »
If someone types how to do it, it gets goofy...

So here is a image of the text.  :)


Be sure to preview it, sometimes it gets goofy anyway.

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Re: Help needed
« Reply #12 on: February 20, 2010, 06:07:51 PM »
good lord, no wonder i can't get a picture uploaded!


gonna be nice when the day finally comes that this place morphs over to SMF


hint, wink, nod, kick!!


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Re: Help needed
« Reply #13 on: February 20, 2010, 06:59:42 PM »
"gonna be nice when the day finally comes that this place morphs over to SMF"?

Maybe for you young-uns, but I just learned how to work this one.  :(

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Re: Help needed
« Reply #14 on: February 20, 2010, 10:26:25 PM »
maybe a local altinator repair shop might help. Just an idea.
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Re: Help needed
« Reply #15 on: February 21, 2010, 06:25:39 AM »
Thanks for all the replies, I'll post when I get it finished.


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Re: Help needed
« Reply #16 on: February 21, 2010, 09:19:46 AM »
thanks for the helping hand Ghurd


i have about every last brain cell already heavily committed to other duties, and

prying a few away to learn how to post pics to this forum when i know that eventually

they will be changing platforms is just not something i am willing to do..


but i appreciate your help!


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