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lionstone

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My solar furnace
« on: December 19, 2008, 03:58:15 AM »
I built this solar furnace over the summer when heating oil prices skyrocketed. I leaned six homemade hot air solar panels against my garage and sealed them together with foil tape. It seems to be working as planned, I hope I can at least recoup my cost's over the next 2 years.


http://i398.photobucket.com/albums/pp64/lionstone/P1010271.jpg


http://i398.photobucket.com/albums/pp64/lionstone/P1010266.jpg


We call it "The heatilater 5000"  It heats the garage up to 95 degrees on sunny days, and when we get home from work we open the door adjoining the interior of the house and let the heat in.


http://i398.photobucket.com/albums/pp64/lionstone/P1010277.jpg


I can shut the garage doors at night so I don't lose the heat.


http://i398.photobucket.com/albums/pp64/lionstone/P1010267.jpg


Solar powered fans. No electricity needed.


http://i398.photobucket.com/albums/pp64/lionstone/P1010283.jpg


http://i398.photobucket.com/albums/pp64/lionstone/P1010269.jpg


Looking outside towards the garage door. The solar blowers force cold air through the bottom of the panels and blows 150 degree heat out the top holes. (not visible in pics)


http://i398.photobucket.com/albums/pp64/lionstone/P1010268.jpg


http://i398.photobucket.com/albums/pp64/lionstone/P1010292-1.jpg




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jonas302

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Re: My solar furnace
« Reply #1 on: December 18, 2008, 09:24:19 PM »
Looks nice Where do you live whats you average winter temp when you are using this

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Re: My solar furnace
« Reply #2 on: December 19, 2008, 06:43:46 AM »
 Interesting design! Doesn't it make it rather difficult to drive a car into the garage though?


 One friend I helped out once had quit using his garage, as he'd quit using a car.

We just glazed the open area of the garage door, and painted the floor black.


 At night, a sensor shut the garage door which we'd switched to d/c, and added a solar panel just for doing so.


 In the summer, the glass panes were removed, and stored so the garage could be used as a patio of sorts.


 Oh i forgot to add that a temperature controlled fan was used to move the heat (as needed) into the main house through a duct.


 

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lionstone

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Re: My solar furnace
« Reply #3 on: December 19, 2008, 07:05:02 AM »
I live in minnesota and the average temp is "cold"  make that "Damn cold"

I forgot to open the garage doors before I left for work one morning and when I came home the temp in between the solar panels and the garage doors was 120 degrees F.  


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Re: My solar furnace
« Reply #4 on: December 19, 2008, 07:17:48 AM »
I plan to make a shed that can be disassembled with these panels, they are there temporarily this winter to see how well it works. It seems to be doing its job so far, we just went through a cold snap (-10F) and when the sun came out it heated the house up to 73F and the garage 80F.  If I were to park my car in garage it would cancel out all the heat I gained all day.
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Re: My solar furnace
« Reply #5 on: December 19, 2008, 07:32:58 AM »
but you would have a nice warm car in the morning for driving to work.
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Re: My solar furnace
« Reply #6 on: December 19, 2008, 08:23:33 AM »
Very nice lionstone.


Are the corrugated sheets aluminum and what type of glazing did you use?  About how much does each panel weigh?


I know those solar vents can be pretty pricey and you say you expect a 2 year payoff.  Do you have a ballpark cost for the whole system?

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lionstone

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Re: My solar furnace
« Reply #7 on: December 19, 2008, 08:25:50 AM »


We park in the shed.

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Re: My solar furnace
« Reply #8 on: December 19, 2008, 08:33:00 AM »
Home depot has the solar vents on sale for $100, I bought 4 of them this fall.

The glazing is polycarbonate sheets from menards, the kind you use for patio roofing, $14 on sale each.

The heat absorber is an aluminum panel painted flat black.
« Last Edit: December 19, 2008, 08:33:00 AM by lionstone »

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Re: My solar furnace
« Reply #9 on: December 19, 2008, 08:36:18 AM »
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Re: My solar furnace
« Reply #10 on: December 19, 2008, 08:38:10 AM »
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Re: My solar furnace
« Reply #11 on: December 19, 2008, 09:05:21 AM »


I'm in the process of fixing all the mistakes and making changes to the panels that I didn't do when I started this project. I wanted to stay consistent otherwise if I kept changing them as I built the next panel it would have looked odd.


anyway, what I'm going to do is add copper water pipes so in the summertime I can switch from hot air heat to hot water. (preheat the water going to the water heater) Copper prices have come down but the pipe at menards is still very expensive.


I'm going to make one panel then switch it with one of the panels already up and continue until all the changes have been made.


My well water coming out of the well is 22 degrees F believe it or not, so I built a temporary solar water heater,


hooked it up to the water heater,



Stuck it in the sun, and two hours later the dang thing was working. In the picture above I would hold the pipes with my hands with the water running and my left hand would be ice cold and with my right hand it was too hot to hold on to. It was coming back in at 200F. But I learned I didn't have any volume of hot water in the pipes and I used 3/8 inch pipe which slowed down the water flow.


So my plan is to add 3/4 pipes inside these panels to hold a lot of volume of water, then I can switch from hot air heat in the winter to hot water in the summer.

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Re: My solar furnace
« Reply #12 on: December 19, 2008, 09:29:04 AM »
My well water coming out of the well is 22 degrees F believe it or not, so


That is hard to believe. It must be hard water...


Nice to see people experimenting on this type of project. Some of the fastest paybacks are in heating water.

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Re: My solar furnace
« Reply #13 on: December 19, 2008, 09:45:35 AM »
22 degrees F or C ??


If your well pump shuts down for any length of time, the water in the pipes would freeze.Especially at night,

 Something not quite right here

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Re: My solar furnace
« Reply #14 on: December 19, 2008, 10:19:28 AM »
OOPS, my bad.  I just figured out what happened, I used a thermometer that goes up to 120F and I used it to check the temp of the solar panel and I cooked it, the solar panel heats up to 200F last summer.

Anyway, I used this same "Burnt out" thermometer (that was stuck at 22F) to test water temp.


I found a different thermometer, It reads 50F for water temp.


FYI: use an oven thermometer when checking temps inside your solar panels

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Re: My solar furnace
« Reply #15 on: December 19, 2008, 04:09:37 PM »
Hi:


If you could push that hot air directly into you house it would benefit you much more, particularly since it would stop the infiltration of unheated outside air into the home. This would have a double positive effect for you. Also, you might want to change to a squirrel cage blower over the axial units. Axials are not very good air movers except at extremely low SP's, and pushing through those small holes really limits the air flows for them (the fans). Looks nice though... Good luck with it...


.....Bill

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jonas302

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Re: My solar furnace
« Reply #16 on: December 19, 2008, 04:32:58 PM »
Im in MN also in Ogilvie about 2 hours n of the cites I was wondering as I want to help my dad heat his garage I think its time to head to menards and get one built
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Re: My solar furnace
« Reply #17 on: December 19, 2008, 05:49:56 PM »
The nice thing about Minnesota is groundwater at 52F feels warm half of the year...
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Re: My solar furnace
« Reply #18 on: December 19, 2008, 07:35:06 PM »
looks very nice.

where did you you get the aluminum frames that hold the glazing and panels?

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