power set up

[ejl7007]

Hi guys.....I have a question, regarding power set up.  If my Genny produces 14 VDC - 18 VDC (After it's been rectified, of course) and connect it to my battery for charging, where do I go from there?  

   A)  Do I wait for the battery to charge and when full, disconnect it from the genny, and then hook it up to an inverter, turnning 12 VDC to 120 VAC and run a few appliances;

  B)  Or do I leave the Battery connected to the generator, and add an inverter to the battery and use it that way to run appliances?  The way I see it, The genny will charge the battery while I continuously draw power from the battery.  In a sense, The battery will forever be charging, or trying to catch up.  Maybe if my genny is producing lots of current the battery will charge fully, while I still draw power from it, to run appliances, and if so the genny will just float charge the battery.

  Suppose there is plenty of wind, and my genny keeps producing enough power-

Why not discard the battery altogether and connect directly to the inverter?

Is that feaseable Or I am just plain nuts?

Cheers

[wooferhound]

This is how I would do it . . .

This is a very simple hookup diagram, almost everything about it could be improved but you can get the basic idea.

[ejl7007]

Thank you mr Woof...The diagram you drew is most explanatory indeed.  However, what is "Hydro Long Wire Perpetual motion"?

Cheers

Ejl

[TomW]

ejl;

Hydro Long Wire Perpetual motion"



It is "tongue in cheek" for Other Sources

Hydro is Hydropower [water].

Longwire is low power static electricity collection method.

Perpetual motion violates every rule in physics regarding extracting power from motion.

Tom

[wooferhound]

Hydro Power

http://www.otherpower.com/otherpower_hydro.html

Long Wire Power

http://www.fieldlines.com/story/2008/7/24/01353/8229

We don't believe in Perpetual Motion or Over Unity machines around here, but if you were able to get one to work, you would hook it up as shown in the diagram.

http://galaxy22.dyndns.org/ev-talon/perpetual.html

[ghurd]

"Perpetual motion violates every rule in physics regarding extracting power from motion"

Even if we use magnets?  Maybe if we use a Halbach array and some old bicycle parts?

Sorry.  I could not stop myself.

G-

[ejl7007]

Sorry Woof...I didn't mean to start anything regarding Perpetual motion....

Ejl

[ghurd]

Nobody answered if you are just plain nuts.

Yes.  

If the inverter is powering a CFL, and the inverter needs 1A to do that, and the windmill is making 1A at 11 to 15V, then it will work.

But the chances of that is 0.  Lulls or gusts will not make anything stabile.

Turn on the TV, and there is not enough power.

Turn off the CFL and there is too much power.

Not enough power will put the inverter into undervoltage shut down.  It may even keep cycling until some smokes.

If the inverter goes into under voltage shut down, the windmill is unloaded, the RPMs increase, the voltage goes vey high, and the inverter will smoke.

Too much wind power available and the voltage to the inverter will increase past the about 15.5V the inverter can handle at the input, and the inverter will smoke.

Both cases involve Smoke.

There must be something to maintain a suitable voltage, supply power during lulls, and absorb power during gusts.

The battery does that.

G-

[ejl7007]

Thank you G.  O.K. So the battery stays on board as you explained; and as woof demonstrated in his diagram....

What is a CFL though?

Nutty EJL

[wooferhound]

Compact Fluorescent Light

[ejl7007]

well I'll be Billy be damned....

Thanks Woof!!!!!