Yes as I have said it already, what if we can devise a way so that we won't have to exert force to get the magnets together first ? This is what we are to work on in order to have perpetual energy. But everyone still thinks within the same box, not outside of it.
"For every reaction, there is action first" please don't think I did not know. But think outside of that, perhaps there is a way that we can have actions done for us without us using any energy first. Perhaps we can use the same energy the do the acting first before reaction !
My comparison between the first planes and perpetual possibilities is only the relationship how at the time, people did not believe what could take place, the hardliners of critics were so sure of what would not work. But at the end, it was the ones who kept trying that won ! Those who has an open mind that won in other words. Comparing that then scenario to today's scenario, they are the same. You are those who were so sure that it could not be done. Your then law of physics told you that nothing heavier than air could hang in the air except if you had feathers like birds ! ! And that was written in law of physics and that was why those hardliners armed themselves with the textbooks under their arms and were so so so sure that it could not be done. They did not have to broke the law of physics at the end in order to fly, they just went around the limitations of the only law of physics known at the time. The new law of physics eventually borne out to be "The Bernoulli effect" or "The Venturi Effect". But at the time the Wrights knew nothing of those effects when they flew the planes they designed ! ! How can you try to say that I look at planes and perpetual machines as the same ! One thing I notice of people, when words ran out, we tend to invent red herrings to confuse the main subject. I was not comparing planes to perpetual, but merely comparing the reactions of those hardliners in both scenarios of cases, and I think that a lesson were to be learned not to be so hard, be more open..
I read back again a few posts back, you said that they had cars already then when they were trying for planes, and cars hit a bump and got flying, that was close to plane. Ha ha, what a joke, this proves just how much some people know about what were was arguing about. The technology are completely different between cars and plane, despite the one commonality, the motor. You said so now by hint sight, but at that time hardliners did not say it the way you said it because cars and planes were completely different technologies all together. Cars stayed on the ground, planes need lift to stay aloft.
You said "Despite its short coming, the Kitty Hawk were a plane. Yeah it were some plane that nobody wants to bother to use anymore once found out of its dangerous shortcomings, but it was by all definitions a dangerous killing machine, not any plane. In fact a few first pioneers had been killed because of the tail heavy designs they thought might recuse them from those universal stalls that frequented those early designs. They did not understand what were a wing stall, it was never on any book of text at that time, then how could you say that the Wrights were skillful scientists and they had every design lined up correct so that the plane could fly ? A plane is something that can fly, not something that kept stalling from the wings. And the meaning why I pointed out the shortcoming of that flying machine was to show how you were wrong in assuming that they were scientists who knew every detail so as to be able to design and flew a plane. My point being that, they did not know what they were doing, they always had the tail too heavy that could not recover from the frequent stalls inherent in those machines. Please stop making red herrings please, you knew very well all of my points, noone do need to be a scientist to invent things as you perceive it to be.
Another point earlier, some said that this and that could not be done, so I brought out the airplanes story as a sample to say that those on the side always insisted that it could not be possible, they were so sure, they were scientist and all other types of authorities to science, they were just as sure as you and some others are today, no difference. But they all proved to be wrong at the end, so my caution was "Don't be so sure if you knew of a certain scientific facts, don't hang onto them like life, we should allow for errors and misjudgements !" But someone said that it were some 200 years ago, that we should not bring that into our play of arguments.-- Red herrings, but all knew my point ! But even 2000 years old lessons will still be lessons, because this is the bases of our advancements !
I should not bring out some secret that is not time ripen yet. But since you and the others have argued to such a stage, I am letting you know now of at least one of my experiments. No free energy in magnets ? Ok, so I put two magnets together and showed the energy sent mass flying. But the immediate reaction were inside the box, saying that one had to put energy into it first to compress the distance between the two magnets. How shallow my friends, this is where we should use our brains and not take things for granted. Because I have a wheel that lifts the magnets high enough, so that when let go of, the magnet dropped very close to another larger magnet, the force of the drop overcomes the magnetic repulsion and get the dropping close enough and almost touches the lower magnet on the disc below, and this repels the large magnet which is affixed onto the horizontal disc below, which turns one notch of distance. Buy this turn, the disc is gears to another vertical disc which turns too, which has a scoop that picked up the magnet that fell, then continues on a bit turning, allowing another magnet to reach a height that falls again very close to another large magnet affixed onto the large horizontal dis, this turns the large disc which in turn turns the vertical disc that continues to drop magnets and the cycle continues. This is how I get the turning Motion without using my hands to force the two magnets together, outside of that forever choking box PLEASE PLEASE ! !. That was why I told you that there could be ways to ovecome the apparent limitations of law of physics, just think outside of the box. Unfortunately nobody arguing seemed to do that. The only trouble left to be resolved is the falling magnets, small pieces cracks off quickly upon impact. I have already had good cushions of spring to absorb that but not enough, have to still work on it. If you knew what I mean, I mean, if a hammer weights one pound, but when you swing it with you hand, this one pound could become 15 pound or more on that nails depending on how high you swing the hand. So the dropping magnets are really forceful enough to get the two magnets close enough to cause the repulsion despite the large repulsion forces of the two magnets ! ! When an inventor had trouble sorting out a problem here and there, that does not mean that it is not workable, it means that it takes time ! Well this is one of my many experiments in perpetual machineries, I am trying magnetic ` magnetic coupled with gravity ` gravity alone, electromagnetic, springs powers alone, spring and magnetic, spring and gravity, etc etc. I am very busy with them, plus I am developing a new language, which will be the word's most efficient language that everyone will go for. For example, the term "Technological" is "Tcnob", short and simple, saves a lot of time in learning and in writing, this will eliminate the level of illiteracy. Languages in the world are still too burdensome to read and write, and that is why people give up half way learning them, some never want to read and write they want to talk only. I am about to change all of that, just give me more time please. Oh, and, no two words sounds alike so there is no mix up in conversation, there is no word pun possible neither. I can go on telling you what are in the bags but I think you will drop asleep.
You are wrong again friend, how can you say that there is no net saving by using neo magnet in place of electro magnetism ? ? ? ? ? ? I cannot believe my eyes when I read your statement friends, this is the fact ! But we don't have to argue long, just use electromagnet effect to bias the rotor of your alternator and compare the energy in and energy out levels with that which neo magnet used, you will see what I mean. Neo always give you high output, either using less rpm and attain save output, or give more voltage, or gives more current, but it does give more because of the unseen energy in the magnets !
Have a good day macks.
harry Luubovv.
