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BrianK

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experts??????
« on: September 08, 2004, 09:47:46 AM »
What makes someone an expert isn't it trial and error. learning from mistakes, and fixing them. Everyone had to start somewhere
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Re: experts??????
« Reply #1 on: September 08, 2004, 10:00:40 AM »
Agreed...

Yes.. folks, please lets not start a habit of asking for 'experts only'  -something about that bothers me a bit.
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« Reply #2 on: September 08, 2004, 10:41:48 AM »
Brian;


They are usually legendary in their own mind!


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Re: experts??????
« Reply #3 on: September 08, 2004, 11:04:07 AM »
Ex is the unknown quantity and a spurt is a drip under pressure!!!!
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« Reply #4 on: September 08, 2004, 02:59:05 PM »


   Come on now they got no time to waste the garage is in a mess the baby is cryin and

  and remote is callin for a little tlc.

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« Reply #5 on: September 08, 2004, 04:38:36 PM »
"Expertese is directly proportional to dollar value of equipment destroyed in the learning process."  B-)


IMHO people who ask for "answers from experts only" are effectively asking for "answers from egotists only".  Many real experts have a bad case of "the impostor syndrome".  They know enough to know how much they DON'T know and thus feel like their rep is overrated.


Also IMHO, the best results will be obtained by asking the question WITHOUT an "experts only" qualifier, then evaluating the answers - and the debate over them.

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« Reply #6 on: September 08, 2004, 05:14:30 PM »
> Expertise is directly proportional to dollar value of equipment destroyed in the learning process."  B-)


LOL, in that case I *do* qualify as expert ! You really don't want to know. Or maybe you do but I'm not telling :)


In the same vein, you get what you pay for.


If anybody *really* want expert advice then go hire one, at $75 per hour or more you'l l get what you pay for. And a liability insurance and fully qualified statement to boot. *FREE* advice in a forum like this will - no matter how well everybody tries to do your homework for you - still be at best an educated guess.


Most of the data presented here are empirically collected, which have a lot of validity, no debating that. Some excellent rules of thumb can be - and have been -  extrapolated from these figures and they can be used to make an educated guess about results in a slightly different situation. But sampling+trial and error and engineering are different branches of the same tree and you need an awful lot of datapoints to be able to extrapolate to some totally new situation. Or an engineering degree :)


Also, a real expert would probably object to you stacking the deck up front about the answer you will get, you can ask for expert advice only if you are prepared to let go and take whatever you will be told. If not you then you claim to already have the expertise anyway, so why bother asking the question in the first place... a real expert would not take kindly to you telling him/her how to solve the problem that you are dropping in their lap.


Case in point here is a local welder. The guy is literally God in welding, retired but still going strong. They used to fly him all over the province to do the impossible. The one way to piss him off is to bring him something that's broken and tell him how to fix it. If you're that good go fix it yourself is the only answer he will give you, and you can take your stuff with you.

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« Reply #7 on: September 08, 2004, 06:54:40 PM »
I guess an exspurt then can also be a whiz. Dont know if that is a hominon or a sinamom LOL JB
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BrianK

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« Reply #8 on: September 08, 2004, 06:55:58 PM »
trial and error VERY TRUE, but look at it this way most of the things that are invented are the result of someone trying to create one thing but ending up with another. Kind of a side effect, or are just invented by accident while trying to figure out something else.


 

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« Reply #9 on: September 11, 2004, 02:58:17 PM »
In the words of Mark Twain (Samuel L Clemens)

"An expert is someone from out of town"


  Expert: Someone who brings confusion to simplicity.

-- Gregory Nunn


  An expert is one who knows more and more about less and less.

--- Nicholas Murray Butler


An expert is someone who is one page ahead of you in the manual.


An expert is a man who has stopped thinking - he knows!

Frank Lloyd Wright


To Find an Expert is Like Kissing a Million Frogs to Find a Prince

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