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Making Electricity from Spinach
« on: July 06, 2004, 12:52:14 PM »
I found these strries about making PhotoCells from Spanach

and I did'nt plant any this year . . .


http://www.gizmodo.com/archives/spinach-solar-power-016991.php

http://www.sciencenews.org/articles/20040605/fob2.asp

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Re: Making Electricity from Spinach
« Reply #1 on: July 06, 2004, 02:06:27 PM »
very very intrestin
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Re: Making Electricity from Spinach
« Reply #2 on: July 06, 2004, 02:11:05 PM »
Hi Woof,


Cool links.

I've been thinking along the same lines...


Plants take water and sunlight (+ a few nutrients) and they provide us with useable energy.


Could plants be genetically engineered to directly produce useable amounts of electricity, or other useable energy source whilst they are still living and growing?


Or maybe it'd still be more energy efficient to plant a seed, let it grow into a tree, chop it down and burn the wood?


Still.. photosynthesis converts the water, nutrients and energy provided by sunlight to produce a variety of carbon, hydrogen & oxygen compounds that can be harvested and used to provided energy...

...intervene somewhere along the line to suck energy out of a tree, slowing it's growth... a slow growing energy farm?


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Re: Making Electricity from Spinach
« Reply #3 on: July 06, 2004, 04:17:45 PM »
You would have to water your solar cells everyday.
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Re: Making Electricity from Spinach
« Reply #4 on: July 06, 2004, 05:38:46 PM »
Could plants be genetically engineered to directly produce useable amounts of electricity, or other useable energy source whilst they are still living and growing?


Eventually.


But I'd suggest genehacking an existing surface-coating bug (bacterium or algae) to generate electricity from light.  Then you could just give it a suitable surface and an occasional nutrient bath and it would produce a self-repairing solar battery.


Or maybe it'd still be more energy efficient to plant a seed, let it grow into a tree, chop it down and burn the wood


A heat engine loses 2/3 or more of the energy in the wood, and the heat available from burning wood is maybe a couple orders of magnitude down from the energy collected to grow it.  (And if you just wanted the heat you can get that directly.)

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Re: Making Electricity from Spinach
« Reply #5 on: July 06, 2004, 05:43:55 PM »


   You could stay really regular too .

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Re: Making Electricity from Spinach
« Reply #6 on: July 06, 2004, 07:58:02 PM »
so THAT's what Popeye was singing about.

toot toot!
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Re: Making Electricity from Spinach
« Reply #7 on: July 07, 2004, 04:31:37 AM »
ooh S##T
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Re: Making Electricity from Spinach
« Reply #8 on: July 07, 2004, 06:36:22 AM »
now thats what i call a 'power plant'
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Re: Making Electricity from Spinach
« Reply #9 on: July 07, 2004, 05:32:56 PM »
Agree POPEYE knew all along how to utilize spinach although not sure about the s**t but they say where theres muck theres money you only have to look at oil!...Sean

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Re: Making Electricity from Spinach
« Reply #10 on: July 09, 2004, 09:37:47 PM »
On the subject of of would it be better to just grow the tree and burn the wood, NO not really.


First if we could make it produce power while growing we would have that power, what ever it be? Then we burn the wood once the tree has matured to the point we want it replaced. In turn we have 2 sources of power :)

 That would be getting the best of both worlds. And also those not wanting to burn wood could bennifit from growing the trees for power, then sell the wood to those that do want to burn it.


As for the effiency of burning wood, one must remember that many usefull items are tossed in the trash or otherwise waisted. For instance you can collect the wood ash most people throw away, filter water through it, and the result is LYE you could use for making soaps or red devil drain cleaner! Just a little more detailed than that, but still simple to do.

Most people, including me toss the wood ash normally thus losing a useable product. Also the Ash could be used for cinderblocks, mixed with concrete for a filler etc.. for low strength applications. Again, we toss the usable ash thus making the burning of wood less effiecent than it actually could be.


Same with creosote, it could be used for many things, treating wood fence posts or telephone poles, but we toss it! Since it is the main cause of chiminey fires obviously it is flamable itself and could be burnt in some way to produce heat.


Wood buring could be 95% effiecent if we would go to the effort to make it so, but we do not. We take the easy way out, burn lots of wood, let hot heat out the chiminey, trash the ash and creosote, and that is why wood is not considered all that efficeint of heating source.

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