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Chagrin

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New solar panels finally coming to market?
« on: June 12, 2005, 04:40:40 PM »
This isn't intended to be a "stock tip" (just trying to give some credibility to the situation), but Daystar Technologies stock rose 60% Thursday on news that they reached a sales agreement with a german PV company for sales of their metal foil (no silicon!) solar panels. Again, the 60% jump implies a good amount of investor confidence that this isn't more solar vaporware.


Initial shipments from Daystar are slated for the third quarter of this year. Press release is at http://www.daystartech.com/press060905.htm if you want to learn more.

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Re: New solar panels finally coming to market?
« Reply #1 on: June 12, 2005, 11:33:09 AM »
   The Company's patented and proprietary products utilize silicon-free CIGS solar cells........

....hate that word... turns me off....first time I

was introduced to it was in relation with my first and last Packard Bell. LOL

                  ( :>) Norm.
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Re: New solar panels finally coming to market?
« Reply #2 on: June 12, 2005, 04:33:38 PM »
And they also mention "price based on a variable market-competitive pricing mechanism" - so what then, the same price as the rest of the solar cells on the market? It's not much good having 500 billion options for solar power if they're all out of the price ranges of most of the world's population.
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Chagrin

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Re: New solar panels finally coming to market?
« Reply #3 on: June 12, 2005, 08:51:13 PM »
I think they're saying that the price will stay below the price of conventional solar cells, otherwise the buyer would be in danger of paying more than what is easily accessible on the market.
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Re: New solar panels finally coming to market?
« Reply #4 on: June 12, 2005, 10:53:46 PM »
I hope that's what they are saying.

I, like Norm, have had my fill of "proprietary" crap.

I want something that actually works.

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Re: New solar panels finally coming to market?
« Reply #5 on: June 13, 2005, 09:21:30 AM »
Hardware inventions pretty much always get patented.  No surprise there.


Look at the string-draw (or whatever they call it) solar cell manufacturing technique.  Hasn't kept it off the market, from dropping the price to below that of panels with cells sawn from ingots (though it IS far above where it's likely to settle once the patent runs out).


Patents give the inventor and his backers - or whomever he sold the rights to - the opportunity to milk the market enough to make up the startup costs with a healthy profit and ramp up production.


While the patent is in force they get to set the price they want.  But they're not immune to competition - just to competition with the SAME technology.


If they're not too smart they'll price it enough below the competing technologies to steal market share from them while increasing the total market only a little.  If they're really smart they'll go for fast nickles rather than slow dimes (perhaps after a little stealing-and-milking), and price it low enough to enter new applications or shift the economics on existing ones (like cogeneration or substitution for grid connection), causing the market to expand explosively and capturing it all - licensing the technology if they can't meet the entire demand themselves.


Fast nickles are a LOT better than slow dimes.

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Re: New solar panels finally coming to market?
« Reply #6 on: June 13, 2005, 07:55:36 PM »
Yeah! Those Packed With Bulls were sure a pile of bull packing, weren't they?


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Re: New solar panels finally coming to market?
« Reply #7 on: June 17, 2005, 10:44:20 PM »
In retrospect, I should have made it a stock tip - you'd all be ~30% richer ;)
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