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Sheogorath

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High voltage panel wanted
« on: July 13, 2005, 03:46:48 AM »
For research and testing purposes regarding a project im working on, we need a solar panel that is capable of delivering 16-20 volts,but we do not want a $500 120 watt panel or anything, we just need about half an amp, but at 16-20 volts. Most panels I see (even higher wattage models) seem to have a standard Vmax of 16ish volts, with a Voc of 20-22 volts. Any suggestions? We want a SINGLE panel, im aware of what we can do by wiring up multiple panels, but this test requires a single panel. Basically need a panel with a 20 volt ouput under "ideal" conditions, instead of the seemingly industry standard 16ish.


Thanks a lot guys

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pyrocasto

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Re: High voltage panel wanted
« Reply #1 on: July 12, 2005, 10:35:20 PM »
ummm, I dont know if they make panels at 20 volts under "ideal" conditions...


I cant think of a purpose though that you cant put some together. They do make 24 volt(28~ volts) though, if that could work.

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Sheogorath

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Re: High voltage panel wanted
« Reply #2 on: July 12, 2005, 11:03:29 PM »
know of any place I can find a small 24v panel?
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pyrocasto

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Re: High voltage panel wanted
« Reply #3 on: July 13, 2005, 12:33:07 AM »
Sorry. Cant find a 24volt panel under 130~ watts...
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Re: High voltage panel wanted
« Reply #4 on: July 13, 2005, 04:47:23 AM »
I have a soltek 10 watt panel and the open voltage on it is 21 volts maybe you can check with them.
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Re: High voltage panel wanted
« Reply #5 on: July 13, 2005, 07:28:02 AM »
You may find this a rerun.

The working voltage is pretty much dependant on the number of cells in series.

The standard is 36 cells at about 0.485V each.

A 40 cell PV adds 4 cells. 4 x 0.485 = 1.94V.  That 1.94V is kind of "added" to the standard 36 cell panel.


The max power rating will kind of be skewed by the way they are rated, which works out to only 0.4325V/cell for 40, instead of 0.485V/cell for 36.

The max power rating is skewed because of the current being limited to the size of the cells.


The VW panel is a better example with 42 cells, rated 18.8V at 175ma at max power, 0.448V/cell. And mine put out over 220ma each into a 12V battery under less than ideal conditions.

Ebay, search 'VW solar'. 'Buy now', free priority shipping, 2 for $35. (Not me)

I just don't see how you will get anything better for your purpose for 5X the money of 2 of these VW panels.


The oposite example would be the so-called 'self-regulating' panels with 30 or 32 cells. No matter how much sun, the PV could not make enough voltage to overcharge a battery. The amps drop off a cliff at about full charge voltage, or if the sun is not about ideal.


How about 3, 4w or 5w PVs at 6V each in series?

That would put the V at max power about 25V,

and the amps over your target, and low light should be improved.

And there were some '18V' PVs being made for grid tie, but all I know of were expensive and 80W or more.


Or just throw a bigger PV at it, one that can maintain 0.450A at 17V.


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joelhacker

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Re: High voltage panel wanted
« Reply #6 on: July 13, 2005, 11:07:53 AM »
Go to:  http://tinyurl.com/5jcf7


and buy two of them...

Wire them in series and call it a day.


If you don't like ~30 volts, but an adjustable

voltage regulator on it to bring the voltage

down to whatever you want...

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ghurd

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Re: High voltage panel wanted
« Reply #7 on: July 14, 2005, 09:53:23 AM »
They only make about 100ma.
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Re: High voltage panel wanted
« Reply #8 on: July 22, 2005, 10:30:31 AM »
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Re: High voltage panel wanted
« Reply #9 on: July 22, 2005, 10:54:34 AM »
That is just a VW panel removed from the housing.

"Prototype" he says? :/

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Re: High voltage panel wanted
« Reply #10 on: August 09, 2005, 04:47:34 PM »
Use the VW panels off ebay i picked up a dozen of these for myself and friends they do decent and you can get a 3 cig lighter combiner jack at radio shack to run 3 in parallel. that will Net you about 9-10 watts i got mine for just under $20 each shipped. Just keep looking on ebay every now and then someone has a large number of them as a package deal. Or pick up a pair of 5/10 watt standard panels and run them in series to get the higher voltage you need.


i have seen 21 volts out without a load other than my fluke dvm. 3 of them do a very nice job of keeping the batteries topped off.

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