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DanB

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17' machine back up and running....
« on: February 22, 2005, 06:34:54 AM »
(Scott predicts about 30 emails about why what we did today won't work... time wil tell!!)


We worked pretty hard on it today, the goal was to fix things in the simplest possible way which may or may not work out.  I think it'll be fine though!



I didnt want to pull the alternator off the tower, it weighs to much.  So we put my truck under it. We cut almost all the way through (save 1") the pipe which holds it to the yaw bearing.  Then, with a crow bar, we added a few more degrees of 'tilt' back, so the blades would be less inclined to hit the tower!  Once it looked good, I welded it there.



Two of the 3 blades hit the tower. One took a minor hit on the leading edge, the other took rather serious damage (pictured above).  We epoxied it all back together today.  George found the biggest missing piece.. though there were still some gaps to be made up for.  One of the cracks went almost to the root, it was nearly 6' long.  Amazing how this blade held up and was actually running and producing power when, and before I realixed there was a problem on Saturday morning.



Here's a picture of the lesser damaged blade, a minor hit to the leading edge and a chuck was gone.  We glued in a piece of Eastern White Pine.




This was the worst blade.  A few major cracks, we glued in 1 piece which was found on the ground, and 2 new pieces of cedar to replace bits that fell off which we never found.  Thank God for epoxy and super glue ;-)  (and Scott who did a beautiful job of making pieces fit together)




Pictured above is an image of the blade which was damaged the most... almost as good as new.  WE sanded them down, put on a fresh coat of linseed oil and stuck it back on the machine.



All in all it took about 6 hours.  We got the alternator tipped back a good bit, and the blades look as good as new.  It's making power as I write this.. time will tell!!  Lots of fun if nothing else.

« Last Edit: February 22, 2005, 06:34:54 AM by (unknown) »
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Re: 17' machine back up and running....
« Reply #1 on: February 22, 2005, 12:09:05 AM »
Looks great Dan. That's quite a tilt,  do you think it will effect performance at all?


Still, gladd to hear everything went well.

« Last Edit: February 22, 2005, 12:09:05 AM by pyrocasto »

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Re: 17' machine back up and running....
« Reply #2 on: February 22, 2005, 01:33:05 AM »
The output changes roughly with the cosine of the angle. Even at 10 deg you wouldn't see the change in performance and probably would have a hard time measuring it with a data logger.  Far better to be safe than worry about a few watts.


Nice work Dan, hope it works out fine.


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« Last Edit: February 22, 2005, 01:33:05 AM by Flux »

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Re: 17' machine back up and running....
« Reply #3 on: February 22, 2005, 03:17:17 AM »
Great job!  If I were in the army, I'd want you and Scott in my unit.  From the pictures, the blades look wonderful.  With the tilting of the rotor, you've likely fixed that problem for good... Time always tells.  Rich Hagen
« Last Edit: February 22, 2005, 03:17:17 AM by richhagen »
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Re: 17' machine back up and running....
« Reply #4 on: February 22, 2005, 05:46:55 AM »
Glad to see it back in the air. It looks like it is smiling in that photo.

The best part of the horror stories is the comeback. A learning experience

from the school of hard knocks is a lesson learned by all.


Nice work!

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Re: 17' machine back up and running....
« Reply #5 on: February 22, 2005, 06:09:32 AM »
Great work Dan and crew! Hope it works out for a long time. Can see now by your pic's that cutting a few inches off the tips would have been useless. Nice not to have to run a backup generator I bet. With your slow rpm's should hold up (hopefully). Though  the tip speed is fast! Figured you'd find a quick fix!  Gary D.
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Re: 17' machine back up and running....
« Reply #6 on: February 22, 2005, 06:44:47 AM »
morning DanB

looks good to me.i like the thought of keeping

it simple.

good luck

later

elvin
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Re: 17' machine back up and running....
« Reply #7 on: February 22, 2005, 07:25:22 AM »
Yes, I didn't want to have this happen again.  I feel quite lucky that we were able to salvage these blades.  I wanted to more than double the clearance between the tips, and the tower so we tipped it quite a bit - but like you said, it has a very small affect on the output.  Next time it breaks... it will be a different problem!
« Last Edit: February 22, 2005, 07:25:22 AM by DanB »
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Re: 17' machine back up and running....
« Reply #8 on: February 23, 2005, 04:18:18 AM »
looks great dan...

just a thought--would it furl at a higher wind speed now?

being the blades are tileted back some what--and letting the wind slide over them ..

less wind resetance..
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Re: 17' machine back up and running....
« Reply #9 on: February 23, 2005, 10:35:17 AM »
Hi Dan,


Congrats on the clever and successful repair.  If you had it to do all over again, how would you change the mount.  Really, I'm asking what you're going to do to prevent this from happening to your first twenty footer!!??


Best,


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Re: 17' machine back up and running....
« Reply #10 on: February 24, 2005, 07:13:51 AM »
hmmm..

I actually like this mounting arrangement so I dont think I'd change much except for the angle at which the alternator is tilted.
« Last Edit: February 24, 2005, 07:13:51 AM by DanB »
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Re: 17' machine back up and running....
« Reply #11 on: March 01, 2005, 03:39:09 PM »
Excellent,


Can't wait to see the next bigger better turbine.


best,


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« Last Edit: March 01, 2005, 03:39:09 PM by troy »