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amiklic1

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Copyright on Otherpower
« on: February 05, 2006, 01:05:44 PM »
As I got an offer from the major Croatian DIY magazine to write a few articles about homemade small wind generators (something like DanB wrote), I started thinking of that seriously. First of all, I would like to note that my job if FREE OF CHARGHE. i'll get NO MONEY for my writing.I would like to present  DIY comunity to the people in my country. Unfortunately, Croatian people are very bad in foreign languages, so I can not simply point them to this site where we all cooperate and have fun. So, sit down and write.

As I have limited amount of pictures and details, and would like to present the tematic in the best view, I was thinking of using some great pictures from Otherpower. Even if noone of you would probably read those articles, it's fair to ask for oppinion.

I was thinking about putting an autor's nick on every picture that is to be published (small written nick in the bottom right corner, let's say).


All of this i because I would like someone to use my own files if it's gonna help some people to better understand the problematics of small wind generators.


So, I would like that people who are interested in any way of sharing the files, publishing etc, to note that in their comments below.

« Last Edit: February 05, 2006, 01:05:44 PM by (unknown) »

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Re: Copyright on Otherpower
« Reply #1 on: February 05, 2006, 06:09:28 AM »
more than welcome to use mine :)

i think most will be, they are free for the taken anyways, i have a folder of ones ive copied for info :).
« Last Edit: February 05, 2006, 06:09:28 AM by theTinker »

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Re: Copyright on Otherpower
« Reply #2 on: February 05, 2006, 06:24:40 AM »
I understood on signing up that this was a public debate, words to that effect were a part of the agreement.  But an aknowledgement of source is always polite so I think you're on the right track.  Anything that may help expand the awareness of what we are doing is fine by me.
« Last Edit: February 05, 2006, 06:24:40 AM by DaveW »

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Re: Copyright on Otherpower
« Reply #3 on: February 05, 2006, 06:33:29 AM »
anything to help others as i have been helped, go for it pepa
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Re: Copyright on Otherpower
« Reply #4 on: February 05, 2006, 07:19:07 AM »
hello amiklic1!


you are very welcome to use what ever i have in the irc gallery.  thats why its there!


http://www.anotherpower.com/gallery/zubbly


zubbly

« Last Edit: February 05, 2006, 07:19:07 AM by zubbly »

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Re: Copyright on Otherpower
« Reply #5 on: February 05, 2006, 08:00:50 AM »
Helping and enlightening other people so that they learn and benifit from your technical report, I believe is great!

Just remember in any report writings you should include a bibliography, meaning any pictures of other people used or the use of text from other people without paraphrasing is a no, no.  In other words give credit to where cedit is due.


Wish you the best,


John E Cox

Ottawa,Canada

« Last Edit: February 05, 2006, 08:00:50 AM by JohnC »

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Re: Copyright on Otherpower
« Reply #6 on: February 05, 2006, 08:30:02 AM »
    It sure makes my day when someone mentions

my name in relation to an idea or project  

  It's what keeps me going....

  E-Mail would be nice to tell someone if you

used their picture.

  You've probably figured out my views on small

wind machines and low winds even...

   Granted there is 8 times more power in an

8 mph. wind versus a 4mph one.....but I would

rather charge a few AA batteries with a 4mph.

wind than crank a little generator by hand long

enough to charge them !

   Even with our small amount of wind I can look

out practically any time of day and see at least

a pinwheel spinning.....pretty sight!

                Fun !

                 ( :>) Norm.  
« Last Edit: February 05, 2006, 08:30:02 AM by Norm »

Julio

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Re: Copyright on Otherpower
« Reply #7 on: February 05, 2006, 08:48:56 AM »
I am using not only Otherpower material, but also from Ed Lenz, Chuck Morrison, ITDG (England, who funded one or two of Mr. Pigott's projects) and even the World Bank. My translations are to Spanish. Some (Not all) asked for proper credit. Just ask for their permission. They will most graciously give it.


Julio.

« Last Edit: February 05, 2006, 08:48:56 AM by Julio »

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Re: Copyright on Otherpower
« Reply #8 on: February 05, 2006, 09:53:36 AM »
I don't think anything I've done would be worth reprinting but,

Please share and sprend the word about RE!

I'd like to belive that my children's kids might have a bit of the planet left.

:)
« Last Edit: February 05, 2006, 09:53:36 AM by coldspot »
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richhagen

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Re: Copyright on Otherpower
« Reply #9 on: February 05, 2006, 12:00:17 PM »
Should you deem any of it of any use, you have my permission to use anything that I have posted here.  Rich Hagen
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Re: Copyright on Otherpower
« Reply #10 on: February 05, 2006, 12:31:36 PM »
Be sure to check the photos themselves for copyright protection -


Electronic photographs have data tags called EXIF's for Extended Information File and are included in jpgs and other formats. Here is an example:




The picture came from an online auction five years ago - here is EXIF data on this 'borrowed' photo...


Image URL,http://www.otherpower.com/images/scimages/2861/AMERICAN20TSIDE.jpg

Image Description,None

Make,FUJIFILM

Model,FinePix2300

Exposure Time,Unknown

F Number,F4.8

Exposure Program,Normal program

Exposure Bias Value,0

Sensing Method,One-chip color area sensor

Shutter Speed Value,1/128

ISO Speed Rating,100

Subject Distance,Unknown

Metering Mode,Pattern

Flash,Flash did not fire

Lens Focal Length,5.8mm

White Balance,Unknown

DateTime Original,2001:09:05 18:33:40

EXIF Image Size(W*H),400 * 300

Software,FinePix Viewer Ver.1.1

EXIF Version,0210

Copyright,          


People wanting to seperate their images from public domain usually will fill in the Copyright & Contact EXIF data areas, though people 'lifting' images via "copying" wipe out EXIF data, reading EXIFs is a best effort to build a clean web site. I know I wouldn't want to get a invoice for $250 because I used anothers picture...


Here are links to a plug-in that will read EXIFs straight from your web browser, works on Internet Explorer and Mozilla...


http://www.download.com/ViewEXIF/3000-2378_4-10129118.html

http://ak.no-ip.com/EXIF/


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« Last Edit: February 05, 2006, 12:31:36 PM by DanG »

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Re: Copyright on Otherpower
« Reply #11 on: February 05, 2006, 01:32:20 PM »
Whatever it takes to keep our disease spreading.
« Last Edit: February 05, 2006, 01:32:20 PM by vawtman »

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Re: Copyright on Otherpower
« Reply #12 on: February 05, 2006, 02:58:29 PM »
all posts and graphics i put on this site i hereby place in the public domain. if any of it is useful to any of you (though i doubt it), please use it.


allan

« Last Edit: February 05, 2006, 02:58:29 PM by kitno455 »

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Re: Copyright on Otherpower
« Reply #13 on: February 05, 2006, 05:15:28 PM »
I should have added that neither am I getting any payment for my work. It is fulfilling though. A Venezuelan government agency is hosting a web with my translations and from visitors statistics that someoene keeps this site has been visited some 6200 times. Do go ahead!.
« Last Edit: February 05, 2006, 05:15:28 PM by Julio »

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Re: Copyright on Otherpower
« Reply #14 on: February 05, 2006, 05:28:47 PM »
after running my ste for allmost a year now I have found my work turn up in a number of similar files and find that the search resuls that lead people to my site include 'How to make a wind turbine', 'how to make a wind turbine as a school project'.


I dont have a problem with this sort of use of my work as largly it leads to better understanding and a more informed destion when one is chossing what type of light to replace the blown icadesenet bulb.


What I think that as I write this on a laptop that uses 60 watts, i know i have changed the way i have and do use energy and i now tat would have been so if i hadernted downloaded files that are copyrighted or seen pics that where copyied illegaly.


So I would say that if you start to use copyright then the ability to teach people is reduced so use my pics, use my files, if it helps people have a better understanding then so be it.

Just my feeling at 00.25 am in the morning

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Re: Copyright on Otherpower
« Reply #15 on: February 05, 2006, 07:09:31 PM »
I'm with the majority, Spread the word...


But the issue of images and credit for critical or proprietory knowledge are also important...


Especially in light of the fact that most sites that offer actual information (as opposed to a Sales Pitch) are reasonably altuistic... OtherPower being a good case in point... it's not clear which came first the windmill building and posting or the Sales via ForceField/Wondermagnet, but in reading the numerous answers to questions by the Dan's, Hugh Piggott (http://www.scoraigwind.com/) and Ed (http://www.windstuffnow.com/) are amazing given that this is thier bread and butter.


The other consideration is the capital costs and operating costs incurred in distributing info via the web nevermind the sweat equity that is invested...


A comprehensive bibliography of links would be essential, as well as the express approval of the owners of the content. Although this may appear to be an onerrous task, it is the way the world turns... As to information on OtherPower, my gut feeling is that it isn't up to any of us but rather the principles that pay the bills and own the framework within which the data is contained.

« Last Edit: February 05, 2006, 07:09:31 PM by FrankG »

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Re: Copyright on Otherpower
« Reply #16 on: February 05, 2006, 10:43:34 PM »
Sounds like a fun project!

You can use anything I posted.

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Re: Copyright on Otherpower
« Reply #17 on: February 06, 2006, 01:25:41 AM »
same here..................................
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Re: Copyright on Otherpower
« Reply #18 on: February 06, 2006, 08:34:21 AM »
For pictures posted on our discussion board, you'll need to get permission from the individual owners. For our pictures from our website, you just need to ask us and refer to each picture you want to use, give credit to www.otherpower.com, and reproduce our copyright notice. We almost always give permission when people ask!

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Re: Copyright on Otherpower
« Reply #19 on: February 06, 2006, 12:18:36 PM »
the stuff I post(not that its always worth using...but) I always post as if public domain- free to use by anyone.

L8r

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Re: Copyright on Otherpower
« Reply #20 on: February 06, 2006, 06:33:02 PM »
if I had anything you wanted to use, go for it!
« Last Edit: February 06, 2006, 06:33:02 PM by wiredwrong »

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Re: Copyright on Otherpower
« Reply #21 on: February 07, 2006, 07:02:56 AM »


 I like to share normally and help others, so if anything of mine was worthwhile (it's not) go ahead for something like that.


I would not want to find some-one selling it as part of an E-book on E-bay or such though.

« Last Edit: February 07, 2006, 07:02:56 AM by nothing to lose »