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Steadfast

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Re: Ghurd could you design a low voltage dropout switch to save our batteries?
« Reply #33 on: September 17, 2012, 01:09:40 PM »
I am suffering from (TBS) technical bonehead syndrome
Glenn call me and make this retarded clear...

but
from what I am reading you guys are suggesting:
1.  I unhook the(50 ft long) burried line from the shed inverter, and connect it directly into the battery array. (making it DC)
2. I install one of ghurds 300 watt rocker switched inverters and a ghurd switch inside the coop to the now DC charged line. (Were inside the coops curcuit I do not know)

If I do this with the weaker inverter inside the coop, I will sacrifice the ability I have now to run Power tools from the coop's outlets, but the fans should still run, right?  In the winter will that 300watt inverter be abile to run two small heating pads, which I use to slightly warm the coop when it freezes?

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Re: Ghurd could you design a low voltage dropout switch to save our batteries?
« Reply #34 on: September 17, 2012, 04:13:36 PM »
Check the labels on the heating pads and see how many watts they draw and size the inverter to match.

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Re: Ghurd could you design a low voltage dropout switch to save our batteries?
« Reply #35 on: September 17, 2012, 05:44:59 PM »
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Or, you could keep track of your battery state over long period of time and then use math to figure how much head room you have in your batteries with your charge system.  Subtracting how much you use in power tools and such. Then you could buy simple timers to turn your fans on and off and if you know your system well enough you can leave it as it is.  Or you could just buy some solar fans and run them independent of the rest of your system.  I don't think they are anymore money then all the other ideals.
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Re: Ghurd could you design a low voltage dropout switch to save our batteries?
« Reply #36 on: September 18, 2012, 06:16:06 AM »
Hmmm. The timer idea has some merit.
Is there a hardwire timer that can run my level of inverter output?
Perhaps one with time pins for a tank water heater?

Btw: ghurd's 300 watt inverter with ghurd's switch will work too.
The 2 heating pads only get upto a maximum 100watts each.
(which never get dialed up that high)
My question is will 12v dc travel 50ft of 10awe.
Ac has zero problems.
« Last Edit: September 18, 2012, 06:20:57 AM by Steadfast »
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Re: Ghurd could you design a low voltage dropout switch to save our batteries?
« Reply #37 on: September 18, 2012, 12:25:17 PM »
Hmmm. The timer idea has some merit.
Is there a hardwire timer that can run my level of inverter output?
Perhaps one with time pins for a tank water heater?

ok...I thought it out...
and Im going with the Timer Idea...

Here is the timer I just bought on Amazon.
I plan to remove the standard switch I already installed inside the Coop's shed and install this in it's power box.

$25.00

Product Write Up:
Programmable timer switch turns lights on and off in up to 7 different sequenes. Don't come home to a dark house. Program your lights to turn on automatically at specific times with the Aube 7-Day, 40-500W Timer, an attractive Decora-style timer switch that can control incandescent, halogen or fluorescent lighting. Easily record up to seven separate on and off sequences, which can be programmed daily or weekly. Need to find something quickly late at night? No problem: The Aube 7-Day, 40-500W Timer offers a manual override, which enables the load to be turned on and off without affecting the programming. A Decora-style wall plate is sold separately. Mount the Aube 7-Day, 40-500W Timer onto a standard single or multi-gang electrical box. The timer may be used for a single pole, an existing 3-way switch or a new 3-way switch installation. Program the date and time and then your seven on and off sequences, and the Aube 7-Day, 40-500W Timer will make sure your lights are on when you get home after dark. Programs are protected against a power failure by a pre-installed rechargeable battery. Additional features include an LCD that shows the time, day and load status.Sleek design mounts flush with standard decorative wall plate (not included) (Switch also available in Almond)Two-operating modes: manual (conventional on and off switch), automaticProgramming: up to 7-programs (7-on and off times) per week. A program can apply to a single day or repeat every day (a program that repeats every day is still considered one-program)Connection: Single pole (2-wire) or multi switch (3-way) (500-Watt maximum and 40-Watt minimum)Dimensions (height by width by depth): 2.7-Inch by 1.8-Inch by 1.6-Inch
 
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Re: Ghurd could you design a low voltage dropout switch to save our batteries?
« Reply #38 on: September 18, 2012, 03:45:17 PM »
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 At some point in time you have to make a decision and then live with it.  You seem to have done that and I hope it works well.  Either way it would be nice if after a couple months you tell us how you like it.
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Re: Ghurd could you design a low voltage dropout switch to save our batteries?
« Reply #39 on: September 19, 2012, 09:26:01 AM »

Btw: ghurd's 300 watt inverter with ghurd's switch will work too.
The 2 heating pads only get upto a maximum 100watts each.
(which never get dialed up that high)
My question is will 12v dc travel 50ft of 10awe.
Ac has zero problems.

Amps is amps.  AWG is AWG.
"zero problems" is related to watts... at 12V or 120V.
12V has 10X the amps of 120V.

I was not suggesting to put the 300W inverter in the coop.
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Re: Ghurd could you design a low voltage dropout switch to save our batteries?
« Reply #40 on: September 24, 2012, 11:14:17 AM »
I installed the new timer switch...
I set it to start up the coop fans from 11am - 3pm
and then again from 5pm-6pm

Yesterday, I was inside my Teardrop Camper installing some new electrical options (something I could NEVER understand how to do before finishing The wind Turbine Project) and I heard the coop as the auto-switch started up the fans. I thought my wife had come out and turned them on...
she told me "I didn't start them up, they just started up on their own." I looked at my watch and it was just after 5pm... Excellent!

It should be running automatically, as of 10 minutes ago, as I type...
It is a clear sunny day today.

I  will update you guys how it worked out when I get home...
« Last Edit: September 24, 2012, 11:27:15 AM by Steadfast »
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Re: Ghurd could you design a low voltage dropout switch to save our batteries?
« Reply #41 on: September 24, 2012, 07:22:52 PM »
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Updates are great,  I would say the fans on a timer will work fine.  The question in my mind would be how are the batteries?
luck
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Re: Ghurd could you design a low voltage dropout switch to save our batteries?
« Reply #42 on: September 26, 2012, 09:13:46 AM »
Here is the new programmable switch which is set to turn on the coop's fans from 11am-3pm and again from 5pm-6pm...



After two clear days with the new timer switch installed inside the chicken coop,
as of 6:15pm today, the battery array is safely in the 80% charged range.


It worked!!!  ;D
Bravo GWW... Thanks for the Idea!
You where right!
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Re: Ghurd could you design a low voltage dropout switch to save our batteries?
« Reply #43 on: September 26, 2012, 05:44:09 PM »
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On of the poster has the saying, "even a blind squirrel will find an acorn once in a while" on his profile.  I mean this about me not you.  I am glad it is working for you.
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