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Storage / Re: Sand Batteries
« Last post by bigrockcandymountain on March 01, 2024, 06:29:23 AM »I kinda skipped this thread and then got curious and read a bit if it. I maybe missed some things.
The question is, why sand and not water? Quick research says water is 4200J/kg C
Sand is 830J/kg C
For the same weight of battery you would need the sand to be 5x hotter for equal storage.
Say water storage with a temp rise of 70 degrees above ambient, (20C) so 90C max. Sand would need to be 370C for the same storage. To me, that is a fire hazard. It is also way harder to heat because it is a solid so can't have thermosiphon currents circulating to mix in the heat. Heating elements are cheap and available. It doesn't need to be hauled in. Just pump it in, drain it out. Works good with simple heat exchangers.
Am I missing something?
The question is, why sand and not water? Quick research says water is 4200J/kg C
Sand is 830J/kg C
For the same weight of battery you would need the sand to be 5x hotter for equal storage.
Say water storage with a temp rise of 70 degrees above ambient, (20C) so 90C max. Sand would need to be 370C for the same storage. To me, that is a fire hazard. It is also way harder to heat because it is a solid so can't have thermosiphon currents circulating to mix in the heat. Heating elements are cheap and available. It doesn't need to be hauled in. Just pump it in, drain it out. Works good with simple heat exchangers.
Am I missing something?