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Logged in diaries / Re: VAWT backyard experiements
« Last post by brandnewb on Today at 07:52:08 AM »
so it takes about 350 grams of force/power/input or what ever we call it to get the turbine spinning from a stand still.

I am not sure what that means but it does mean there are losses. and a lot of them :(

The cups are up again and now we wait for the wind to pick up.

drumm rolllls
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Wind / Re: axial generator with lamination core
« Last post by Adriaan Kragten on Today at 02:26:48 AM »
Something more about ways to prevent a large peak on the cogging torque. If the housing of an asynchronous motor is used for a radial flux PM-generator, there are several ways to prevent cogging. One way is to use two less or two more armature poles than stator poles and to use a 1-layer winding with coils around only one stator pole. This methode is described in my reports KD 560, KD 624 and KD 648. Another way, for which the standard winding of a 4-pole motor, a 6-pole motor or an 8-pole motor can be used, is described in reports KD 730, KD 747 and KD 760.
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Wind / Re: axial generator with lamination core
« Last post by Adriaan Kragten on Today at 02:08:24 AM »
are we sure that a 2m rotor diam is going to be useful?

Adriaan do you concur?

If so then I think we should all be updated on a new way of calculating as then it seems that this omincalcularor I refereed to is useless.

It all depends on the Cp of the rotor and on how much mechanical power P you want at which wind speed, what rotor diameter is required (see KD 35 formula 4.1 and 7.10). It depends on the efficiency of the generator and the efficiency of the transmission which electrical power you get (see KD 35 formula 4.2). So it is possible to design an effective wind turbine with a rotor diameter of 2 m but you must know what you are doing and realise an good matching in between rotor and generator (see KD 35 chapter8) and use a proper safety system (see KD 485). If you don't understand all the theory, you can build one of my small VIRYA designs specified at the menu VIRYA folders on my website. Report KD 35 is available in English and in Dutch at the menu KD-reports on my website: www.kdwindturbines.nl.
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Wind / Re: Block diagram for our turbine
« Last post by kitestrings on May 22, 2024, 11:58:40 AM »
"...supplemented by wood atm."  I'm not sure what this is?  Can you explain.

For lighting, I always thought it'd be interesting to experiment with fiber optics.  It's well out of my area of expertise, and likely not practical, but the concept of routing light directly into a space with minimal penetrations through the envelope is interesting.  Although if, I assume, it has to be supplemented with artificial light, it may not be worth the duplication of sources.  I guess if a natural light-box/collector could be centrally supported...
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Wind / Re: axial generator with lamination core
« Last post by brandnewb on May 22, 2024, 11:00:29 AM »
are we sure that a 2m rotor diam is going to be useful?

Adriaan do you concur?

If so then I think we should all be updated on a new way of calculating as then it seems that this omincalcularor I refereed to is useless.
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Wind / Re: Block diagram for our turbine
« Last post by XeonPony on May 22, 2024, 08:30:32 AM »
Quote
more than you asked for.
Sure, every system that evolves long enough develops prehensile things like gall bladders and wisdom teeth.

I was pretty sure you operated off-grid, but wondered if there was occasional support from an existing supply.

Thanks for the extra detail.

My house is already on grid, so I'm looking at an existing pump, stove, heating and other things that pull many thousands of kW each.  And it's trivially easy to turn them all on at the same time.  Replacing them all would be very invasive surgery.  While I could save energy that way, I also expect such changes would not increase the value of the house, nor have anything but a negative effect on reliability or ease of repair.  For all of the modifications I've already done, I'm the only repair man.  I've whittled our consumption down to less than 8000 kWhr per year.  Probably terrible to an off-gridder like you.

These considerations make choosing a grid-tie inverter pretty complicated.

My average use for a day (24h) is apxly 6KwH to 7KwH, I turn the hot water tank on as I need it, usually Wednesday, Sunday to shower do laundry

Heating is mainly diesel supplemented by wood atm

Lights, LED and really only use them in 2 rooms, rest is natural light

Future plan will be to use a boiler to dump any excess wind energy into and put a 30 tube solar thermal tube onto it as well, easier to shed heat during summer by utilizing shading methods, as I intend to use some heat to warm a methane digested.
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Wind / Re: H-Darreius wind turbines ( VAWT ) !
« Last post by topspeed on May 22, 2024, 06:26:40 AM »
This displays the colors of the 2. prototype that has been been the most successful so far.

It has inside:

1. kill switch
2. main switch
3. rectifier
4. fuses
5. watt meter

15938-0

Attachments: 5.jpg * 5.jpg

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Wind / Re: axial generator with lamination core
« Last post by mbouwer on May 22, 2024, 05:19:31 AM »
Back to the blade adjustment in the spinner of the Nordex model.

Attachments: inside spinner.JPG * inside spinner.JPG

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Wind / Re: Christmas Windmill Time
« Last post by taylorp035 on May 21, 2024, 08:45:48 PM »
Finished the 2 part epoxy for the coils.  Also completed the new jacking screw system.  Eventually I'll have to take a picture of that once finally assembled since I think you guys will like it.

Measured the final thickness at 0.406", so that will be a large improvement for the magnetic flux versus the ~0.700-0.800" I had on the last one.

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Attachments: PXL_20240522_001456763.jpg * PXL_20240522_001456763.jpg

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Wind / Re: axial generator with lamination core
« Last post by brandnewb on May 21, 2024, 05:20:37 PM »
@ Brandnewb,

Our government is increasingly positive about wind energy.

Wicked!

I had never understood that any government was able to influence the power potential of a given wing span.!

But I am always humble.
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Wind / Re: axial generator with lamination core
« Last post by brandnewb on May 21, 2024, 05:13:44 PM »
Dear Adriaan,

You know I have you in the highest of regards!!

I realize I am still not hibernating :( even thouh I said I would and I should yes agreed.

Please make sense of it all. what is wrong, other than build ability, with my current setup of the PMA?
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User Diaries / Re: pigeons
« Last post by XeonPony on May 21, 2024, 03:55:45 PM »
Big issue in my city everywhere... Mary got it right, spikes are the only viable solution.
... Or a rifle ;D

Bagged 50 for some one once, I got tired before I could get them all!
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User Diaries / Re: pigeons
« Last post by XeonPony on May 21, 2024, 03:54:11 PM »
CCI Fragmenting quiets.

As loud as an air rifle, won't penetrate the fender of a car, but removes magpies and crows and pigeons very effectively!

https://www.cci-ammunition.com/rimfire/cci/quiet-22-segmented-hp/6-970.html
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Wind / Re: axial generator with lamination core
« Last post by brandnewb on May 21, 2024, 10:58:44 AM »
I think only skilled people can use create coil enhanced coils.

I for one am not one of them yet.

I know that having the cores enhanced will result in more ability to exact power from the wind via the the PMA.

Yet it will also introduce facts like;

"Ok boy, can you build something strong enough?"

hahah I still can not :(

So I focus on the DIY aspects.. is it at al conceivable that one can build this? That is DIY!!

Truth be told though that I am starting to0 lean towards outsourcing to machining shops.

I do not want to do it. and doing so will mean the biggest fail in history.
Yet I am considering!!
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Logged in diaries / Re: VAWT backyard experiements
« Last post by brandnewb on May 21, 2024, 09:36:40 AM »
That's a great spot for you mill.
How much space will you put between the ground and the bottom of the rotating body ?

That depends.

The rotating body might be dig in so no no longer require guy wires.

But My eventual goal is to have the arms rotate close to the ground/structure that holds them.
So we can have them floating if all is engineered out enough.

But in direct answer to your question in this specific scenario it is a little more than 120CM above grass level.

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Even though that the rotating body does still spin on the grass at like 10 CM elevation.

Hence my idea to dig them in or submerge them somehow. These columns

But in the end of the day the level of the arms should be situational. For me it is as high so long they to not cut my other projects.



#2
That's a great spot for you mill.
How much space will you put between the ground and the bottom of the rotating body ?

I would like to debate what is the difference between a mill and a turbine?

I think I know. Please let me know if I am mistaken.

A mill is a wind/ water turbine driven machine that mills something. usually grain or the likes.

Hence we are no longer milling anything I think we should be able to call it turbines yes?

Or at the very least chargers(of batteries)

Please just accept my emotional response because I feel about these things. As my country "invented" mills (that is probably not true at all)
So I just am a bit of a strickler regarding that. :(



#3
Lawn mowers have used a magnetic clutch system for decades.  Your answer to torque at a certain point might use a similar method to kick in a bigger load or to brake.

Yes brother, I have no idea what you meant there. Please elaborate and I will be sure to do the same.



#4
Please let me get this out there!!

Should anyone know how to create a 1:30 drive. then please do not be shy..

I can maybe get to 22, even more perhaps 24 x!! and that is including knowing that the drive will become the weak point and break down rather fast!!!

1:30 stable? any ideas gang?
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Wind / Re: axial generator with lamination core
« Last post by Adriaan Kragten on May 21, 2024, 02:49:29 AM »
What I have explained in my previous post for ratios 3/4 and 9/10 in between the number of coils and the number of armature poles is also valid for higher numbers. But the number of coils must be divisible by three and the number of poles must be even. So for a PM-generator with no iron in the coils one can use 12 coils and 16 magnets or 15 coils and 20 magnets or 18 coils and 24 magnets and so on. For a PM-generator with iron cores in the coils one can use 18 coils and 20 magnets or 27 coils and 30 magnets and so on.

For a PM-generator with iron cores in the coils there are better options than 9/10 like for instance 15/16 or 21/22 or 27/28. Lets take 15/16. Now the coil sequence is U1, U2, U3, U4, U5, V1, V2, V3, V4, V5, W1, W2, W3, W4, W5. So there are three bundles of each five coils. The coils in one bundel must be wound alternately left and right hand. The angle in between the coils is 360 / 15 = 24°. The angle in between the poles is 360 / 16 = 22.5°. So the difference is 1.5°. This means that there are 360 / 1.5 = 240 preference positions per revolution. This is much higher than for the ratio 9/10 and the peak on the cogging torque will threfore be much lower. A simular calculation will show that the ratio 21/22 is better than 15/16 and that the ratio 27/28 is better than 21/22.
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User Diaries / Re: pigeons
« Last post by Mary B on May 20, 2024, 12:17:18 PM »
Big issue in my city everywhere... Mary got it right, spikes are the only viable solution.
... Or a rifle ;D

Rural too, pigeons love just harvested fields... I had close to 2,000 out back last fall...
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User Diaries / Re: pigeons
« Last post by TechAdmin on May 20, 2024, 10:34:17 AM »
Big issue in my city everywhere... Mary got it right, spikes are the only viable solution.
... Or a rifle ;D
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Logged in diaries / Re: VAWT backyard experiements
« Last post by electrondady1 on May 20, 2024, 09:45:28 AM »
That's a great spot for you mill.
How much space will you put between the ground and the bottom of the rotating body ?

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Logged in diaries / Re: VAWT backyard experiements
« Last post by MattM on May 20, 2024, 08:04:14 AM »
Lawn mowers have used a magnetic clutch system for decades.  Your answer to torque at a certain point might use a similar method to kick in a bigger load or to brake.
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Wind / Re: H-Darreius wind turbines ( VAWT ) !
« Last post by topspeed on May 20, 2024, 04:47:24 AM »
My new electrical part of the test rig.

15934-0

15935-1

I have not been able to make the new blades yet. I have been able to find and correct several weak points in the old set up.

Attachments: tormus.jpg * tormus.jpg tower5.jpg * tower5.jpg

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User Diaries / Re: pigeons
« Last post by Mary B on May 19, 2024, 09:22:07 PM »
Make strips of spikes that stick up, use some 3m VHB tape and tape them tot eh top edge of the panels.

Like used on my Davis Weather Station rain collector bucket



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User Diaries / pigeons
« Last post by tanner0441 on May 19, 2024, 03:42:03 PM »
Hi,

I only have three 400W panels, so I need every watt I can produce, they are on the roof of my workshop and only about twelve foot off the ground. I am having to wash them on an almost daily basis because the local pigeon and blackbird population like setling on them and it seems neither spiecis suffer in any way with constipation, in fact they all seem remarkably healthy.

Has anyone any idea how to deter birds from landing on solar panels or at least facing the other way round with their tails hanging over the space behind the panels..

Brian

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Wind / Re: axial generator with lamination core
« Last post by mbouwer on May 19, 2024, 11:25:56 AM »
@ Adriaan Kragten,

Lots of nice information. My previous test setup had iron in the coils and I will do that again for my next axial generator.

Attachments: voor- en aaz.jpg * voor- en aaz.jpg

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Wind / Re: axial generator with lamination core
« Last post by Adriaan Kragten on May 19, 2024, 09:08:34 AM »
(Attachment Link)

9 coils / 12 magnets.
According to the Bavaria Winding Diagram Table, 9 coils / 10 magnets would be a better combination.

If nine coils and ten magnets is better a better choice than nine coils and twelve magnets depends on, if the coils have an iron core in the coils or not. I will explain this for four different options A, B, C and D.

A) Assume we have nine coils and twelve magnets (so a ratio 3/4) and no iron in the coils. This means that the coil sequence must be U1, V1, W1, U2, V2, W2, U3, V3, W3. This means that if the north pole N1 is opposite to U1, the north pole N3 will be opposite to U2 and the north pole N5 will be opposite to U3. So the voiltage generated in the three coils of one phase are exactly in phase to each other and this gives the maximum total voltage. It can be proven that the phase angle in between coils of phase U and coils of phase V is 120° and that the phase angle in between coils of phase V and coils of phase W is also 120° and so a 3-phase current is generated. As there is no iron in the coils, the armature will have no preference positions and so the generator will not suffer from cogging. So this is a good choice

B) Assume we have nine coils and twelve magnets and iron cores in the coils. Now four of the twelve magnets are just opposite to four iron cores at the same time and this gives a strong preference position. The armature pole angle is 360 / 12 = 30°. The stator pole angle is 360 / 9 = 40°. So the difference is 10°. This means that the armature will have a preference position every 10° and so it will have 36 preference positions per revolution. This results and a very strong fluctuation of the cogging torque. So this is a bad choice.

C) Assume we have nine coils and ten magnets (so a ratio 9/10) and no iron in the coils. This means that the coil sequence must be U1, U2, U3, V1, V2, V3, W1, W2, W3. This means that if the north pole N1 is opposite to coil U2, the south pole S6 will be almost opposite to U1 and the south pole S1 will be almost opposite to U3. So the voiltage generated in the three coils of one phase are not exactly in phase to each other and if coil U2 is wound right hand, coils U1 and U3 must be wound left hand. It can be proven that the difference in phase angle is 20° and this results in some reduction of the total voltage if the three coils U1, U2 and U3 are connected in series. As there is no iron in the coils, the armature will have no preference positions. So this option works but is not as good as option A because using ten in stead of 12 magnets results in a frequency which is a factor 10/12 lower. The total voltage will therefore also be lower than for option A if the same magnets are used.

D) Assume we have nine coils and ten magnets and iron cores in the coils. This means that the coil sequence must be U1, U2, U3, V1, V2, V3, W1, W2, W3. This means that if the north pole N1 is opposite to coil U2, the south pole S6 will be almost opposite to U1 and the south pole S1 will be almost opposite to U3. So the voiltage generated in the three coils of one phase are not exactly in phase to each other and if coil U2 is wound right hand, coils U1 and U3 must be wound left hand. It can be proven that the difference in phase angle is 20° and this results in some reduction of the total voltage if the three coils U1, U2 and U3 are connected in series. However, as now the coils contain iron cores, the armature will have a preference position if a magnet is just opposite to a core. But for a ratio 9/10 this happens only for one magnet and one core at the same time. The armature pole angle is 360 / 10 = 36°. The stator pole angle is 360 / 9 = 40°. So the difference is 4°. This means that the armature will have a preference position every 4° and so it will have 90 preference positions per revolution. This is much more than for option B and the peak on the cogging torque will therefore much lower than for option B but it wiil be bigger than for option A and C. The advantage of using iron core in the coils is that the air gap is much smaller which results in a much larger flux density in the coils and therefore in a much higher voltage at a certain rotational speed. Option D is a good choice if iron cores are used. But compared to option A and C, it will suffer from cogging and so one needs a windmill rotor with a rather high starting torque coefficient to get a sufficiently low starting wind speed.
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Wind / Re: axial generator with lamination core
« Last post by mbouwer on May 19, 2024, 04:53:26 AM »


Parts of the blade adjustment.

Attachments: onderdelen.jpg * onderdelen.jpg

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Wind / Re: axial generator with lamination core
« Last post by mbouwer on May 19, 2024, 04:51:10 AM »
@ Brandnewb,

Our government is increasingly positive about wind energy.
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Wind / Re: axial generator with lamination core
« Last post by brandnewb on May 17, 2024, 07:25:32 AM »
OHH WOW!!

if it is 2m diam then my municipality (or is it province?) can not not allow for it!! based on diam alone.

Is it the same where you are operating from?

Anyway I fear that with a 2m diam, things will pretty much be rendered useless.

I soo hope I am mistaken as that will open a whole new window of opportunity once I get my skills together as to make no noticeable sound and be sure things do not become lawn darts. Especially at the RPM I think one needs to be able to extract some useful power out of the wind whilst not potentially killing anything in a 40 meter radius when s*&t hit the fan.

I am soo open for polite discussion. I mean now we know my fears.

{1}
I get 0.05195Kw of available wind power at 3m/s when using a 2m diam HAWT. according to
https://www.omnicalculator.com/ecology/wind-turbine
that is.
at 5m/s that would be 0.24053KW

I am not sure if this all makes sense so please let us try and figure this out together ok?
{/1}
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Wind / Re: axial generator with lamination core
« Last post by mbouwer on May 17, 2024, 04:32:20 AM »


Blades 2 meters diameter. Like the Nordex they have to run about 20 revolutions/min.
I now need a blade adjustment mechanism.

Attachments: 1 m bladen.JPG * 1 m bladen.JPG

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Newbies / Re: magnet backplate
« Last post by JW on May 16, 2024, 10:47:34 PM »
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Newbies / Re: magnet backplate
« Last post by JW on May 16, 2024, 10:26:02 PM »
 


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Logged in diaries / Re: VAWT backyard experiements
« Last post by brandnewb on May 16, 2024, 02:39:44 PM »
I have come to the following realization.

That a direct drive in the context of a slow spinning turbine (because of the large diameter and the fact that the blades are pure drag types) is really hard to pull off.

Far harder than I care to entertain at the moment.

It is will involve either or both;

* Increase the PMA diameter by a lot so that the angular velocity increases and that must surly be in some way expressible as inertial/kinetic energy. Make it large enough (like a 100 meter radius) and then even 0.001 RPM will translate into insane power.

* Make use of core enhanced coils to increase the attraction between the electromagnets (coils) and the rotor permanent magnets and thus harvesting more energy from the torque of the turbine while it overcomes the electromagnetical resistance of the PMA to rotate.

Both are out of my wheelhouse as of yet.


And lets not forget that if the PMA ends up being too powerful for it's intended operation range which is anything from 3m/s till maybe 9m/s maximum. Then it might never get up to speed as the PMA then slows the turbine down too much acting like a break even though the coils are not shorted..

Anyway. I am pleased to show and tell that I still listen to Mary. So I vowed to stop measuring for now and just build as to not end up paralyzed in analyzes.

15929-0

it is not a 1 to 4 increase. nee

then what is it?

a 1 to 7 ratio?

neee

my lord. a 1:11?
BINGO!!!!!

You see that is the only way I can make sense of it.

There is just not enough energy available in a slow moving disk, of but 660mm diam, to extract any meaningful power out of it.

I am already struggling with what to do if I have too much torque available.
But in the end of the day all we can expect is but around 200 watts at 3m/s wind speed according to the omniicalculator.




Attachments: turbine and pma togetherd.png * turbine and pma togetherd.png

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Wind / Re: axial generator with lamination core
« Last post by MattM on May 16, 2024, 06:28:41 AM »
You must be getting close to assembly.
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Wind / Re: axial generator with lamination core
« Last post by mbouwer on May 16, 2024, 03:47:34 AM »


Now 3 new blades like this one. A foam core covered with polyester.

Attachments: blad vb..JPG * blad vb..JPG

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Wind / Re: axial generator with lamination core
« Last post by mbouwer on May 15, 2024, 03:34:40 AM »
Main axle with blade suspension.
1 mm sheet steel with a first layer of polyester.



Attachments: spinner..JPG * spinner..JPG

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Wind / Re: axial generator with lamination core
« Last post by mbouwer on May 14, 2024, 04:15:15 AM »
To shape the spinner with the blade suspension I want to continue with parts I made earlier.

Attachments: spinner.JPG * spinner.JPG

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User Diaries / Re: My very very long solar tracker build
« Last post by Mary B on May 12, 2024, 11:35:17 AM »
My rotors are a double worm gear design... huge amount of torque and braking. One in the pic has over 8000 foot pounds or rotating torque and 24,000 foot pounds of braking.
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Solar / Re: 2-axis solar tracker (was: axial generator with lamination core)
« Last post by mbouwer on May 12, 2024, 03:38:56 AM »


Mechanically it works well but I would like to make everything a bit simpler.

Attachments: mech..JPG * mech..JPG

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Wind / Re: axial generator with lamination core
« Last post by mbouwer on May 12, 2024, 03:02:00 AM »


The main shaft directly drives the planetary gearbox.

Attachments: aandrijving.JPG * aandrijving.JPG

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User Diaries / Re: My very very long solar tracker build
« Last post by XeonPony on May 11, 2024, 09:12:07 PM »
PWM drive is partly what caused it, the old set up used a magnetic break for the motor when off, at times it hung and just acted like a flyback and all sorts of issues.

Worm drive self locking, so ditched the pwm idea all together. there is no band aiding a bad set up, simply strip and make it proper.

Nice set up. Most I did was CB, still have the gear and want to set it up again, used to get a god skip to honalulu
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User Diaries / Re: My very very long solar tracker build
« Last post by Mary B on May 11, 2024, 06:49:16 PM »
Here is why I needed to overhaul the Azimuth drive to begin with.

Need to revers engineer the circuit, easy enough to repair as just the rectifier module that blew but over all circuit is functional still.

(Attachment Link)

(Attachment Link)

(Attachment Link)

maybe a PWM motor driver instead of an on/off design? Can ramp speed up and have less stress on everything. How my antenna rotors work, they ramp up speed for 2 seconds then ramp down to stop. With 150ish pounds swinging in a circle that is a lot of force on the central mounts/motors...

This is what I rotate... 2 of the 4 antennas mounted, still needed to add the coax lines(4 of them), power divider, preamp... it adds up fast for weight



The finished antenna array tracking the moon(and I can track the sun to measure sun noise to measure receive performance)

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Coil winding / Re: How to determine the limits of a coil / magnet configuration
« Last post by JW on May 11, 2024, 02:01:39 PM »


If you look up on Wikipedia on the top/ of what your trying to say, use grammar that Wikipedia provides. just don't copy/paste to the forum.
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User Diaries / Re: My very very long solar tracker build
« Last post by XeonPony on May 11, 2024, 12:45:09 PM »
Here is why I needed to overhaul the Azimuth drive to begin with.

Need to revers engineer the circuit, easy enough to repair as just the rectifier module that blew but over all circuit is functional still.

15920-0

15921-1

15922-2

Attachments: IMG_20240511_093813.jpg * IMG_20240511_093813.jpg IMG_20240511_093830.jpg * IMG_20240511_093830.jpg IMG_20240511_093859.jpg * IMG_20240511_093859.jpg

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Now I will stop rambling now again for a while as I am still not even sure if this will even get out there
It absolutely will, your posts increased in quality by several orders of magnitude, I am very glad to see that once you're calm and collected you're not rambling all the time and posting 7 times in a row, you're actually writing properly with some good points! Carry on like this :D
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Wind / Re: axial generator with lamination core
« Last post by mbouwer on May 11, 2024, 03:37:20 AM »


Assembling the main shaft with slotted holes for blade adjustment.

Attachments: main axle.JPG * main axle.JPG

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User Diaries / Re: My very very long solar tracker build
« Last post by XeonPony on May 10, 2024, 03:24:14 PM »
Minor update, I had to move the idler out to further tighten the chain for smoother operation, it ran a full 24h off a fully charged 5ah dewalt 20v drill battery and only used 1 bar of energy.

I still need to measure actual current from the drive motor through a full rotation to see the peak amps and time it to set the home position for after Sundown as the controller has a parking feature.

Reminds me of the satellite television dish my parents had when I was young.  It used pivots to tilt back and forth.  The pivoting apparatus bore its weight on an arc shaped bar.  As you rotated the dish horizontally there were wheels that rested against the bar.  The bar sat on the horizontal pivot before the dish tilt machinism and could be adjusted about to any direction before keybolts held it tight against the main horizontal pivot.  Until wind got in the low 50s the big dish could hold a tight signal.

It was made with a good bit of repurposed satellite dish parts and concepts
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Wind / Re: axial generator with lamination core
« Last post by brandnewb on May 10, 2024, 02:46:45 PM »
Yes brother,

I am thrilled that you also just keep informing us over on this site.

Look, I hold you int he highest of esteem of course. And thus please keep hanging out here.

Yet do know that I read between the lines.

Anyway back on track. I would still like you on board on how to quantify this power generation aspect of our builds.

I sure am still failing at it. I just so hope that a new insight might just get the show on the road.

Kind regards
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I think it is time to reintroduce the Gravity Torque Test (GTT) after all. So thank you Joestru for that one because I certainly would have needed another 40 to 60 years to come up with that one.

You see that this thread has a really simple goal. It is just the title it self.

Please may I offer for debate my latest iteration on how to do this right once and for all.

Just short ones coils then let the PMA spin up in a controlled manner and see at what rotational speed the PMA can become stable in terms of it's maximum operating temperature limit. In other words if your PMA breaks down at some point than you have to go slower next time you try :)

This is what I call the Coil Magnet Limit. CML for short to be sure.

But now we have a fun and important data point sure. But nothing we can use to compare apples to oranges.

Here I would like to reintroduce the GTT again.

You see that I can think of coil magnet configurations that can be exploited to signal a huge CML yet in practice do nothing.

The reason why is because of the field forming abilities of the coils are so different in each configuration that it needs to be taken into account.
That is not really done using the CMl test as the VFD that drives the motor probably has something like torque compensation. Mine has although I don't know what it does.
I know enough that this GTT is the one thing we can rely on if we need torque to be constant.

Now I will stop rambling now again for a while as I am still not even sure if this will even get out there. So I am also going to have to respect my own time.

Once I see things normalizing again I will try telling more about how far I have gotten tackling this REALLY important question.
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Wind / Re: axial generator with lamination core
« Last post by mbouwer on May 10, 2024, 03:51:08 AM »


Base of the nacelle with the main bearing housing is mounted on the yaw bearing.
I now need to make the main axis.

Attachments: nacelle.JPG * nacelle.JPG

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Wind / Re: H-Darreius wind turbines ( VAWT ) !
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