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Generating RE Power in Atlantic Canada
« on: November 21, 2006, 08:42:17 PM »




Hi, Gang!  I'm a virgin... well to RE anyway, and I have just completed the  

first phase of my Wind Turbine project. Do you like my bird?  My wife carefully  

painted this ring-necked pheasant, took two days.  Thanks Sheryl.


I have been following all of your postings and experiences for over a year now,  

and I have learnt an incredible amount about three-phase permanent-magnet  

machines.


I come from a large family including nine brothers, most of whom are tradesman.  

With their help, and many of our friends, I have collected most of the parts  

required to build my wind turbine at a cost of about $1500 so far. This is my  

story...  


My goal was to build a wind turbine capable of powering my summer-home in Maces  

Bay (Point Lepreau area, southern New Brunswick, Canada), and to finally be  

free of the monthly power-bill.  After acquiring the knowledge I needed to  

proceed, and collecting the initial parts, I started construction...






My wife's Stepfather helped with the blades which are constructed from laminated  

Eastern-cedar.  The blanks measure 7.5 by 2.25inches and seven feet long.  They  

weighed six pounds each when complete (I used my wife's food scale to measure).






I built this coil winder for the project, and it worked very well. I added the  

gear-head motor to wind my guitar pick-ups, this helps to justify the construction  

effort (I tinker a bit with building electric guitars as a hobby).  

As you should be able to see, there is a set of vertical pinch-rollers followed  

by a set of horizontal pins, and finally a brass guide to keep the two-in-hand  

wires fed close together on the form as you wind with a wrench.  This system  

nicely removes any kinks in the wire, as well. The mandrel is simply a peace of  

hardwood that can quickly be substituted for any shape and size to yield the  

desired coil.






After winding the coils for a basic 9/12 machine, I built this mould.  You can  

see the CAD drawing of the stator imbedded into the bottom of the mould, and on  

the lid.  I designed the entire machine with a CAD package for CAM with a  

water-jet, and also for accurate layout and drilling of the Stator.  This  

proved to be worth while, as the assembly of my alternator was slick!  I allowed a 1/8th inch tolerance around each coil to compensate for any movement when the lid was clamped on the mold.  You may be able to see a smaller 24awg wire wound into(embedded) the first coil picture.  I wanted to build several experimental features into my first wind turbine for later testing.  I intend to use this 24awg coil as a "sensor", un-hindered by load, to drive a Star-Delta switch and monitoring station.  You will see that I ran a separate 14/3 control wire down the tower to connect this feature to the control circuitry.  The stator was cast with a 1-2-2.5 part mixture of poly-resin, talc, and triple-aught silica sand, respectively.  I  

decide to "go on a limb" after an un-scientific experiment, where I mixed a  

six-inch disc, half-inch thick, of traditional mixture of poly and talc, then a  

disc of the chosen mixture.  I placed each disc on a pre-heated hot-plate, and  

placed a hand on each and waited for them to get warm.  The silica mixture got  

warm in less than half the time the traditional did - good heat transfer!  

Another observation was the rigidity of the silica mixture, it was very hard, and stood several more heavy blows with a 20oz hammer.  The silica also mixed easier than the talc alone.  Probably because it does not tend to lump like talc and assists in separating the talc when stirred.  I found only one undesirable effect of the silica - it is hard on drill-bits!  The last picture shows the finished  

stator (15" x 5/8") with the bracket overlaid showing the precision obtained at  

the drill holes.  The paint used was epoxy-based. For the curious, I tested the  

resistance of each coil using a PK-Precision current source and measured  the

voltage-drop. Ohm's law applied, ~.04 ohms per coil, which is enforced by 42  

turns (approximately 30 feet per coil), two-in-hand 14awg copper(.0025ohms/foot  

x 30 /2).  Each phase also measured .11 Ohms after the stator came out of the mold.






Aiming for a 24volt machine, I decided to go with doubling the flux density  

with 1x1x2 Neos, as all water-jet CAM parts were cut from half inch plate  

(plenty of strength as well as the added fyl-wheel action obtained from the  

weight).  The rotors are 12.5 inches in diameter.  The white template is made from common hard-board furniture-backing.  A good friend in the automotive industry donated a special body-panel adhesive, new on the market, which yields 1000lbs/inch shearing strength, better sealing quality, and much wider temperature tolerance than the traditional panel adhesive.  I found it easy to work with.  It also stands firm until cured, allowing the welded-look around the edge of each magnet in the last picture. I do not think it is necessary to submerse the magnets in epoxy, and I want good centrifugal-fan action for cooling.  For a complete seal, I coated the entire magnet-rotor in epoxy paint.  This is the front-rotor, notice the threaded-hole for jacking.






All parts are coated with epoxy paint as the weather conditions here on the  

Fundy Bay are always very windy, adding sea salt-corrosion to the list of  

potential problems for a project of this magnitude.  The threaded rod, nuts, and  

washers are 5/8 UNC stainless.  The first picture shows the Yaw-stand, made  

from 36 inches of 1.25inch sch80 DOM pipe (seamless) with a polished finish to  

act as the race for a Teflon bushing installed in the Yaw mount shown in the  

2nd picture.  There is also a Teflon bushing in the top along with a stainless  

thrush washer.  In the subsequent pictures you will notice several points of  

design that are deferent from the norm.  I wanted to experiment with some ideas, so the proto-type seamed as good a time as any to try them out.  In the 4th picture  

you will see that I opted to 'step back in time' and use a automotive strut  

(Volvo of course).  I like the thought of recycling.  A lot of parts in this  

project are of "junk-box" origin.  I have designed the tail-boom so the  

furled-stop is the flat-bar attached to the tie-rod arm protruding from the  

back of the spindle assembly, and the rest-stop is a air-craft cable (double for  

safety) anchored using one of the original lower-ball joint bolts and the other  

end bolted to the boom where the length of the cable allowed a 90 deg position  

from the blades.  This effort was to keep the tail-boom pivot a solid pipe over  

a one-inch cold-rolled pin to lessen fatigue.  A large washer welded to the  

pivot-pipe allows for a mating 1/4inch bolt, washer and locknut to secure the  

boom from lifting off the pivot-pin.  I have decided to use six half-inch UNF  

bolts to fasten the spindle assembly to the Yaw.  This allows for tilt  

adjustment for blade clearance, as well as furl adjustment by positioning the  

alternator between five and eight inches from the Yaw stand.  The stator bracket  

is gusset-shaped to take the turning forces when Current demand is high.  The  

last picture you can see two sets of double air-craft cables going down from  

the strut's coil-spring flange.  These cables act in unison as a torsion system  

to limit the number of 360 deg turns the machine can swivel on the tower before  

twisting the aircraft cables tight around the Yaw stand.  The locking collar is  

the ring (with four 5/16 bolts at 90deg) in the background of the 4th picture.  

This is what holds the opposite ends of the four torsion-cables to the Yaw  

stand and allows for maximum turns adjustment by sliding the color up or down  

the 36 inch yaw stand.  I am not at my summer home for weeks at a time, so this torsion system should ensure my 6/3 power cable does not twist too far.  I added grease fittings for both pivot points, and a pulley was added for a manual-furl cable.

You may have already guessed the short-comings of this assembly - the tail-boom  

flange!  I have rectified this weak point, and will add pictures near the end  

of this post.






Next is the Bade assembly.  I wanted the ability to test double stator design  

in the future, so I designed the blades larger than necessary (7 feet), paying  

particular attention to the airfoil and cord thickness hoping for good  

performance/speed for the initial single-stator alternator, as well as strength  

to drive a double the double. Again, epoxy paint was used.  The blade-hub was  

cut from the same half inch plate with water-jet CAM. This added even more  

weight for flywheel action to buffer gusts of wind.  The main reason for  

using heavy plate here is for the flux path of the front rotor (magnets on both  

sides), and mounting magnets to the back side of the blade-hub for the future  

second stator design.  This makes the modifications easier as the existing  

design is ready for these magnets and stator, including the strength of the stator bracket and length of the threaded-rod.  The CAD design of the rear blade-hub and bolt placement incorporates this modification.  Another feature is the 2.5 inch hole in the center of the blade assembly to aid in cooling the alternator.  A 13 inch stainless bowl (with a smaller stainless bowl concaved into it), mounted as a  

nosecone concentrates the oncoming wind into the center hole creating a  

high-pressure area, just before the low-pressure area of the centrifugal fan  

action of the magnet rotors, resulting in very good air flow around the stator.  

A small stainless grill was riveted to the concaved bowl base to stop any  

debris from getting into the alternator.  My one concern with this design is ice  

build-up from the venturi action of the orifice (time will tell).  The last  

picture shows the cone installed as well as the one-inch turnbuckles I got from  

salvage.  The blades weighed in at 6lbs 4oz each, painted.  Static balancing  

was bang-on (I suspended blade assembly on plumb-wire from garage ceiling).






Now for the dead-men, tower-base, and supporting structure.  My wife's father  

owns a heavy equipment company, and he donated the time to dig the holes down  

to ledge and backfill after the concrete was set.  I quilled the ledge with  

rebar and set plenty of rebar in the concrete.  I use one-inch foundation pins  

as the anchors for the half-inch guy-wires.  The tower is a tilt-up style built  

on top of a 25-foot industrial light-pole donated by a good friend.  I had a  

lone of the 4-ton winch from another good friend, which mounts nicely on the  

dead-man in the 3rd picture where you can see the hunk of the ledge close to the  

surface.  The gin pole coupling was welded to the cast-steel base of the tower,  

which allows for removal of the gin assembly after the machine is raised.  The 20-foot gin pole and brace is shown in the last picture.






As mentioned earlier, I wanted to experiment with Delta switching in  

high winds (which we get a lot of), so here is my design.  This system defaults to Star (Wye).  It is a good time to point out that the mechanical air gap has been set to 3/32nd of an inch resulting in a total displacement of opposing magnets to around 7/8 inch. The closest point between adjacent magnets (same rotor) is 1.1inch apart, as I am trying to get the most out of the 1inch thick N40 magnets... concentrating the flux through the stator.  






The moment of truth has arrived. After a year of planning, I am finally ready  

to put my bird in the sky!  The total tower is built to disassemble by way of  

four hardened 5/8 bolts at each 10-foot junction of 4inch sch40 pipe.  The  

joint flanges were cut with the same water jet job of half inch plate.  The top  

section of pipe is 2.5 inch sch40 that I got from salvage, and you can see it  

flex when  the tower is horizontal.  This did bend or kink, when the tower was  

completely erect, it was solid and straight.  However, I decided to replace this section with 4inch sch40  the

next time I lower the turbine.






Success, as I finish adjusting the turnbuckles.  Isn't it prurdy?  The total  

height of the tower is 53 feet, and the height to the tip of the lightning-Rod is  

60 feet.  Notice the torsion system limiting the machine to one turn (this is a  

test run) pointing ESE when the wind is from the South.  The Wire cables have  

an inherent ability to provide a cushion-effect at the stops, so the limits are  

not abrupt.

It was flying for a week, with excellent heat from a home-made three-phase  

heater, when it experience the common Fundy-Bay winds... the tail-boob flexed enough until the flange cracked and my bird started flying low.  I had to lower it (in high winds!!!), afraid the tail may crash into the blades.  Since then I built  

a new yaw assembly and added a better support to the tail-boom.  I also  

replaced the top ten foot section with 4inch sch40. I have not completed the DC  

or Inversion phases of the project yet, so I have very little performance data  

to pass along, however I could not stall the blades using six-foot booster  

cables (10awg, cheap) as a dead-short in 25 mile per hour winds. Believe-it, or  

not, the insulation on the cables got hot and soft very quickly!


The following are pictures of the install of the new yaw and flange.






Then disaster!






I was flirting with disaster by being a lazy-man and cutting corners on the  

gin pole side supports.  By not installing a small dead-man anchor to the sides  

of the gin pole, inline with the hinge for tie-downs, I tempted faith one too many times!  I had a man steady the ropes with pulleys tied to trees at 45deg in front of the gin pole, which required constant adjustment for the change in distance as the tower was raised.  One of the men over compensated and reached the critical  

point of no return.  The machine came down with such force, one blade exploded  

into tooth-picks!  I have not mustered the nerve to inspect the alternator for  

damage yet. Suppose I will pick away at the repairs throughout the winter.  I  

am sad but not broken.  Sometimes these things have a way of being necessary...  

 A note to all new-comers, please don't get hasty and rush to the finish-line.

Cheers!

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Re: Generating RE Power in Atlantic Canada
« Reply #1 on: November 21, 2006, 03:40:20 PM »
Welcome to the forums as an excellent contributor!


I sure hope you kick your self-proclaimed "lazy" habit (I don't see any hint from your post!) and fabricate a quickie blade to take advantage of your new heat source!


Good luck and looking forward to power conversion posts!!

« Last Edit: November 21, 2006, 03:40:20 PM by DanG »

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« Reply #2 on: November 21, 2006, 03:58:16 PM »
Oh my gawd , excellent story.

after seeing the blade the second thing i would have checked is the alt

but it may be fine , i imagine it would take a lot to bend the spindle on a volvo
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Re: Generating RE Power in Atlantic Canada
« Reply #3 on: November 21, 2006, 04:09:34 PM »
Sorry to hear of your disaster while raising your generator. I know exactly how you feel, because I lost the use of my main generator 3 weeks ago in the storm that went through N.B.   Although my damage was much less, only a burned stator, it put the machine out of bussiness until it,s repaired.

I,m sure you will get some great comments on your handiwork. I must say you did a great job on the construction of your generator, with all the extras you added, like 12/24, auto delta/star, adding silica sand to your stator mixture,epoxy paint,and I take it the small pulley on the photo of the generator is for manual furling. Sounds like you had lots of help throughout the whole build and I expect you will be back in the air soon.

I am waiting for 32 magnets 3 x 1 1/2 x 3/4 and 2 steel disc 18 inch in dia. I am currently winding 12 coils for a copy of Dan B's 17 footer. This time I will make sure my generator furl,s sooner. I  can always add weight later if need be.

Im in Perth,N.B. Keep up the good work. Mitcamp

 
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« Reply #4 on: November 21, 2006, 04:51:04 PM »
Excellent post, I enjoyed the story.  Hopefully the broken blade absorbed enough of the force to prevent other major damage.  Tower raisings cause me a bit of concern, there is a large amount of potential energy in a few hundred pounds tens of feet in the air.  

Welcome aboard and keep having fun with this stuff, Rich Hagen
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« Reply #5 on: November 21, 2006, 05:44:06 PM »
Yes, thank you for taking the time to share - excellent project and I think you were quite close to success!  It wont take you too long to get it right hopefully.  I hope your alternator is in tact.


I worry about your scheme to keep the wires from twisting up.  Seems to me it could also prevent proper furling which could also be catastrophic.

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« Reply #6 on: November 21, 2006, 06:14:40 PM »
I did not read everything but do you have to have a warning light on your tower because of the hieghth? Some areas require a light if over certain hieghts. Just thought I could save someone from complaining It looks good Montana
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« Reply #7 on: November 21, 2006, 07:23:25 PM »
Nice work. Eastern 'Cedar' is a great choice for blades. If you have to rebuild the Stator, check out DanB's reports on resins. You are corrrect in sealing the Magnets with Epoxy.


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« Reply #8 on: November 21, 2006, 07:52:46 PM »
Love the rotors.I could never get it why one would use superglue type adhesives(not moisture proof)and then pack resin combinations around them.Long term epoxy for mag setting and epoxy paint is better.Nice

Seems that once the mags lose their grip(moisture) the whole thing could fall apart.

 Maybe what happened in Dans situation.

 Hang in there and nice work.
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« Reply #9 on: November 21, 2006, 08:09:09 PM »
A fellow NBer.


Congrats.  It really looked good.  Too bad of your mishap.  But don;t let it dispair you.


I'm located in Fredericton.  and would love to see yours running perhaps next spring/summer.  :)


I cant wait to get my sys all up and running.  :)

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« Reply #10 on: November 21, 2006, 08:37:34 PM »
  WOW!! What a great job. I'm currently in the middle of a 10 footer myself and am surprised at how many people on here are from N.B. I'm from Grand Manan myself.

  Just curious of what kind of a challenge you found at building the blades as this is the one part that I really am not looking forward too. The steel part for myself is what I have enjoyed the most as I work in a metal shop. I have also wondered about simply painting the mag rotors, and when I machined my rotors I left a lip about 3/16ths around the outside hoping it would keep the mags from wanting out?

   Anyway, great post and it would be great to hear of some output figures if possible?


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« Reply #11 on: November 22, 2006, 01:15:35 AM »
Great work and presentation. Hope you soon get it back in the air again.


Just one question, why the redundant series diode after the bridge, it is not needed.


I have to agree with DanB that restricting the rotation is going to be a long term nightmare.


Otherwise you seem to have a splendid setup, hope you are soon back up and flying.

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« Reply #12 on: November 22, 2006, 04:20:59 AM »
Great work and great story!  Sorry to hear about the mishap and hopefully you'll get things fixed-up quickly.  Very ironic that you live near Point Lepreau and installing a wind genny... good on ya.
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« Reply #13 on: November 22, 2006, 07:01:05 AM »
Thanks for all the positive feedback, Gang!  After a good nights sleep (fisrt since disaster), and waking up to these replies, I think I have the nerve to get started on the repairs!


I recognize most of your aliases, and I would like to thank you all for getting me this far, as it is tribute to your experiences that got me here.


Mitcamp, I was daring with some of these mods, like the adjustable spindle assembly.  But it has proven stable for the seven days in flight, as well as the Big Bang! (the adjustment stayed on mark).  Also, I was furling late, and this adjustment allowed me to fine-tune by moving a little farther from the Yaw.


Richhagen, I am hopefulof the blade that exploded absorbed the energy of the fall.  Also, the turf here is very spongy because of the forest-floor.


DanB, thank you especially, as your earlier projects are what got me inspired, and interested in RE and wind power.  I also worry about my torsion system.  However, I am hoping the experiment will show that the change in wind direction over time will mostly correct itself by giving an opposing turn or two, given enough slack power-cable and time.  If I am wrong, the wire-cables and collar are easily removed and the system will run as most do.  Thanks, again!


Montana, hmmm, a solar-power beacon-light... thanks :)


Cdog,  I am also surprised to see all my neighbors here (thought I was alone).  The best advise I can give on blade carving is 'do not start until you can understand the reasons and effects of the dynamics'. eg. the "cord" is the strength of the blade, summing up, and transferring all of the turning forces to the root/hub, hence the constant increase in cord material as you move from the "tip" to the "root".  Like most, it took me a very long time to get my 'minds-eye' to see the air-foil and fluted curve of turbine blades, and the reason for it.  Good luck with your project!


Flux, you gave me more insight and knowledge of three-phase and associated principles... your the man!  Thank you as well.  There is actually one 60Amp series diode between each bridge 'positive output' and the battery bank to prevent back-flow current to the alternator in the case of a shorted bridge.


Frank06, some of the Gang may not be aware of Point Lepreau being a Nuclear-Power generating site, and presently being fitted with a 2nd reactor "Lepreau-II".  My wife is just putting the finishing touches on our new signage, to be erected after the governments big-sign is up.  My wife's will read "Lepreau-III Power-Generating Site" ;)


Thanks, to all of you!

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« Reply #14 on: November 22, 2006, 07:53:14 AM »
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Good morning, Henry.  Thanks for your interest.  K1,2, and 3 are large double-throw relays used to re-configure between the Wye and Delta modes.  In my post you can see I used Double-Poll Double-Throw relays.  I wired so both polls are parallel - doubling current capabilities of the contacts (each contact rated for 30amps totalling 60amps per relay).  K4 is a small 5volt(?) relay on the proposed control board in the power-shack.  The sensor winding will generate a voltage proportional to turbine RPM, the Pot fine tunes the point of delta engagement.  Hopefully the hysteresis in the small relay will buffer momentary drops in RPM/wind speed.


I wound the sensor winding in tandem when winding the two-in-hand coil.  The 24awg does not increase the size of the completed coil much, as its diameter nicely fills the voids between the 14awg wires,  (therefore, the sensor winding is embedded).  Only one coil has this winding, and it does not matter where you place it in the mold, as it does not have an electrical connection to the main phases.  I mounted this coil at the bottom of my stator as there was no other contact-lugs there.

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« Reply #15 on: November 22, 2006, 08:09:30 AM »
"DanB, thank you especially, as your earlier projects are what got me inspired, and interested in RE and wind power.  I also worry about my torsion system.  However, I am hoping the experiment will show that the change in wind direction over time will mostly correct itself by giving an opposing turn or two, given enough slack power-cable and time.  If I am wrong, the wire-cables and collar are easily removed and the system will run as most do.  Thanks, again!"


It's interesting.  I find that up here (and it is turbulant around here) machines tend to twist up slowly - but consistantly in teh same direction.  Which way it twists up I believe has a lot to do with which way it furls.  When running in a gusty wind - if the  gust hits it in such a way that the tail can lift - then sometimes the machine will mostly stay put and the tail will lift.  If it hits on the other side, the machine will yaw.  So it's more inclined to yaw one way than the other I think.


The way in which its likely to twist up is also the the way it needs to turn when it's furling.  If your's twists up and is prevented from further yawing - it will likely prevent furling and if the machine is running at that time it only takes once.  A machine that can't furl is likely to burn out and will also put a much greater load on the tower than it normally would.  I'd not inhibit the yawing on this - if you're that worried about it I would look into making slip rings.


Another good policy might be - unplug it at the bottom of the tower when your not around, and plug the line into a dead short.  Then, perhaps when your gone the machine can turn freely with the whole line and nothing will twist up and the machine will remain shut down.  That might solve both our concerns!

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« Reply #16 on: November 22, 2006, 08:42:38 AM »
I agree, thank you for your insight.  Your thoughts on 'turning one direction due to furling' seem solid to me. I may retire this modification... or, add a spring-loaded flip mechanism to titer my bird at the rest-stop in heavy winds... :) just having fun! Thanks, Dan.
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