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Phoenix

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Question about rotor?
« on: August 03, 2006, 12:47:42 PM »
I'm Thailand university student. now I try to build small wind turbine but

I don't understand in many part of alternator because in Thailand have

a few knowledge about wind alternator.


  • Why we use steel plate in 2 magnet rotor.Can i use aluminium or wood to make it.
  • Why magnet in 2 rotor is arrange with N-S-N-S... Can i make seperate N-N-N-.... and S-S-S-....


Thank you very much and sorry for my not good English.

W.Natthapong
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paradigmdesign

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Re: Question about rotor?
« Reply #1 on: August 03, 2006, 07:15:33 AM »


  1. No.  Well you can, but the idea is to use the steel and make the magnets stronger.  Wood and aluminum are not very magnetic.
  2. No. They have to be N-S-N-S for an alternator

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Titantornado

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Re: Question about rotor?
« Reply #2 on: August 03, 2006, 07:21:49 AM »
You can use other "non-magnetic" materials for the rotor, but you will loose a lot of the magnetic energy (flux) that makes the electrical current in the stator.  The steel actually "steers" the flux into the adjacent magents, instead of it being allowed to be lost into the air.


A discussion related to your question of magnet polarity was recently posted at http://www.fieldlines.com/story/2006/7/27/222750/026

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dinges

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Re: Question about rotor?
« Reply #3 on: August 03, 2006, 09:06:28 AM »
There is at least one person in Thailand who knows what he's doing; his name on the board is 'chinsettawong'.


http://www.fieldlines.com/story/2004/11/17/75422/166


I advice to read this board and otherpower.com for a while. All the projects by the Dans are a good read, and will learn you a lot more than just the answers to the 2 questions you got.


I quote:


Magnetic Circuit--Picture a magnet to be almost like a battery. The lines of force from a magnet are said to originate at one pole and return to the other, just like a battery. Air is a poor conductor, both for electricy and for magnetic lines of force. In order to make best use of a magnet (and our copper wire) in an alternator, we need to have the strongest possible magnetic field. Just like copper is a good conductor of electricity, steel is a good conductor of magnetic fields. A good magnetic circuit involves steel between the poles with a gap (the airgap) where we need to utilize the field. In an alternator, our wires should occupy the airgap, it should be no wider than necessary, and every other part of the magnetic circuit should be of steel. We can either use steel laminates (laminated steel reduces eddy currents) or we can have magnets on each side of the coil(s) moving together with steel behind them. Again, look at our various wind turbine experiments to see. It should be said that some of them, like the wooden alternator and the all wooden windmill have very poor magnetic circuits.


Quote from this link:


http://otherpower.com/otherpower_wind_tips.html


Succes.

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lannarebirth

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Re: Question about rotor?
« Reply #4 on: August 08, 2006, 07:59:36 AM »
Hi Phoenix,


What city are you in?  Which university do you attend?  In addition to "chinsettawong" on this forum, I'm aware of a farang in Isaan who also builds wind turbines (his up to 12KW).  He goes by the posting name of "MaizeFarmer" at www.thaivisa.com.  I live up in Chiang Mai and have been studying this site, hoping to learn how to make a wind turbine.  I installed my first 120W solar panel/controller/battery today.  It will provide power to a small home of Tai Yai and I hope a 12v pump someday.  Best to you.


Sawasdee Khrup,


Khun Ken

« Last Edit: August 08, 2006, 07:59:36 AM by lannarebirth »