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RogerAS

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Mac In Use, CATION. Files attached! Disturbing Graphic Warning!!!
« on: September 04, 2006, 08:50:14 PM »



This is actually what happened to me when I saved a file on a PPC based Mac running old OS v9.2.2 for a freind that had a Dell X86 something or other. That's from the "before" time when things like this weren't supposed to happen. The date was 08/19/02 10:42am.


It was terrible! Women cried. A grown man fainted, trust me I know the guy real well. It was 45 minutes of "the ride from hell" around Ozark mountain roads to the nearest place with a qualified bone Dr. I'd let touch me. They had to do x-rays and tried to do it BEFORE the Demerol. Let's just say there was one right hand balled into a fist in protest to moving that wrist, or what was left of it. God Demerol is great when you really need it!


I created a little Word® file and when I pressed the key combo for "Save As" the whole thing exploded like a daisy cutter. Half my 60 acres were flattened as though it were the forest around St. Helens! Both bones at the wrist joint were compound fractured.


This is 4 weeks into recovery. All the "little" pins have been pulled. The photos of my face were gratefully destroyed! See one can do that with one left hand motion on a Mac, bring about sure swift action, so NEVER do this!!!


My above statement was almost all a lie. That IS my arm, the break was AS advertised! The Photo has only been transformatted to jpeg. No retouching or photoshop tricks.


Macs don't autodestruct like PC's have been know to do.


I actually broke this arm falling off the side of my $750 power room. Lack of good health insurance made that little 6' fall into a $15,000 power room. That WAS my solar budget! A square ended truss array was braced with a single 2X4 to hold square and plumb. I was about to fine tune the west end truss, balanced on the top stud plate, while placing WAY too much faith in 16p sinkers. It was cool. The middle nail in this angle brace, of about 10, popped free and the rest followed like machine gun fire. I knew I was falling a short distance and held my arms loosely at my sides, 'cause trying to "catch" ones self is a sure way to break an arm.(?) I learned that the hard way riding a cycle! Besides there was a 10' 2X4 full of nails coming along for the ride. On impact both arms flew out to my side like a dying bird's wings. The left one found a rock shaped just like a pryamid, and the wrist encountered that rock just so. The rest they say is history. I will never have a good left wrist again.


For saftey alone I'm now revealing this masively evil key combo. Remember do so at your own peril! It may blow you away!


On a Mac keyboard press in this order:

The Apple Key with your thumb, right next to the space bar on the left hand side, little finger press the shift key, middle or ring finger pres the "s" key, and the file will be saved with a title or name of whatever you want. If one transports said file to any other Mac the client Mac will provide an option list for the file to be opened if the creating program does't reside on the client end. Mac's can save files for internet use in alomst every program written for the Mac. The above photo was snapped on a digital hooked to a PC at work. I just had the file emailed to me in the camera "raw" format via our internal server and it was magically transformed into jpeg anyone with a moden browser can see. That was done on the dual core tower sitting on my desk. It took all of 15 seconds to have the file in this state. Now you can see it too. Ain't moden technology wonderful?   ?    ?     ?


Macs work so much easier than PC's (IBM clones), and this is ESPECIALLY so with graphics that it's unreal. To blame the Mac for not HAVING to have all the extension markers "just so" a program will open the file is like saying, "It's not fair that your race car is faster than mine because I use a 1974 Pinto 4 cylinder and you use a Honda Indy Car V8 engine." A Mac can just tell what kind of file it's dealing with. That's what use Mac users have been trying to tell the world for years, along with about 500 other advantages over a windoze box. Ever hear of iTunes?


I know my voice is as one crying in the wilderness, but those of us that have had/used a mac or 200 know the truth. We've had to work on a PC box from time to time and we know............


Someday............................


BTW Wildblue actually got a man to my house Sunday to fix this ISP thing once and for all. It was a bad grounding block. I thought it was my inverters ground when there were problems on install. It turns out the part was leaking ground at the uplink side of the coax connector. It only took a request to terminate service to finally get something done! Of course this same dude was supposed to be here Saturday @ 2pm, that made no show # 6! A $5 part would have fixed it 2 months ago!


So it appears I'm here to annoy and clutter up the place a bit longer.

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Re: Mac In Use, CATION. Files attached! Disturbing
« Reply #1 on: September 04, 2006, 03:22:27 PM »
OUCH!!!!!!!!


Must have been nice to sleep with that little bar and pins sticking in you--NOT!


In spite of being a Mac addict--you are OK Roger--hi-hi.

(actually I'm going to have to find a cheap Mac and just see what's so good about them--my time on them has been minimum since the original Apples came out--uggghhh!--same ugghh for the IBM clones of that era! How far we have come in 20 years now!)

Glad to hear ya have a reliable Internet access again.

How's the "little" alternator working with the diesel engine combo--OK still?

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« Reply #2 on: September 04, 2006, 03:22:52 PM »
Yes but........


Can your Mac discern the file type remotely when clicking on a link in a browser?


Linux uses magic numbers to discern local file types also.


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Re: Prescient Macs
« Reply #3 on: September 04, 2006, 04:12:41 PM »
Amanda,


Yes most of the time. In OSX Safari can do most of this. Unless the file is hidden in a CSS/PERL or other  scripted manner. IF the image appears on my screen, for example, or there is more than a symbolic link I can download the source. Why not give me a test url with an embedded file. If I cannot decern the type file it is It's because I'm the carbon unit. I may not be able to open the file, but I can download anything. I've downloaded all kinds of non Mac stuff and used it. I've grabbed the movies from PC game CDs and all kinds of files and eventually got the Mac to use it in some way.


I regularly view posters files that have nothing to do with a particular posting. Most of the ones that Scoop won't let through. Of course I've delt with so many various PC files like Corel, Paint and others that I'm used to oddball graphics programs. Now if you get into non net related, spreadsheets, or serious CAD stuff I may not be able to tell what it is. Access to the files and not just aliases is of course what's required.


My point is that the actual use of the Mac is easier. The keyboard shortcuts are but one thing. The "Finder" and "Sherlock" means you will never lose a file again. Don't remember what you named something? Just look by date. Don't remember when? Look by program of creation. See, there is just too much about a Mac to list here. Go visit apple.com.


I never run spyware or virus software. I don't have to, I run a Mac.


Steve,


Get a fairly modern Mac if you're gonna get one. IF you're thinking the current Mac OS is anything like an old apple II get ready for a thrill ride! A new Mac will do about anything a Sun Sparc can do and more. If I had a static IP # I'd run a web server off this little box I'm working on right now. I'm running Apache on this machine as a local host it right now. I have all the software to run a full fledged web server off this little ole iMac and it could do it. I wouldn't, but I could for say a live web cam site of box turtles nesting. As a one trick pony it'd doo great.


I'm telling you guys, a new Mac is so much more than they used to be. Go check it out on the web.

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Re: Prescient Macs
« Reply #4 on: September 04, 2006, 04:19:08 PM »
Steve,


Alost forgot.


The "little" alternator is the best thin since sliced bread! I can only get around 135 amps outta the Kubota before it starts bogging down. :-) Yes it's working out great, thanks again.

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Re: Prescient Macs
« Reply #5 on: September 04, 2006, 06:24:27 PM »
http://www.fieldlines.com/user/pennsymtguy/files


See if your browser will open these directly just by clicking on them. Not downloading first.


I believe this all started from this thread

http://www.fieldlines.com/story/2006/9/3/22146/01776


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« Reply #6 on: September 04, 2006, 06:28:56 PM »
And another thing.


Current Mac OS is unix.

Cheaper to put Linux on pc hardware.


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Re: Mac In Use, CATION. Files attached! Disturbing
« Reply #7 on: September 04, 2006, 06:41:59 PM »
135 amps?? what are you shoving all of these amps into? Must be a big ol' battery bank.

And ya ain't exacly--close but not quite--crowding the amp limit on the alt either.

Seems the Kubota is kinda getting a workout though.

If and when--for a Mac--I will look for a old G4 maybe, since I think I might be able to scrounge one cheep (comparitively) enough locally. (seen where they are "dumping" them at Costco lately)

Won't be one of the new "Intel's" though--- that would make a rotten "cored" Apple---little pun there, but time will tell as to the new Intel processors and Apple/Mac's future. End of an era with the new processors??

But I am going to have to make/build another Win based computer (old 550mhz PII for now--it will do) to run the Picaxe software and programmer things--too bad I can't get that stuff to run in Linux.

Although I can get  Gizmo's PicLog stuff to run in Linux using Wine. Gizmo's little thingie has a lot of possibilities lurking under the "hood"--so to speak.

Geee--everytime I go to this Diary, I have to shudder at that picture at the top--ouch!

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Re: Mac In Use, CATION. Files attached! Disturbing
« Reply #8 on: September 04, 2006, 07:09:01 PM »
Carefull..


I was setting up my battery room & slipped off of a ramp holding a board with nails in it.  I fell about 4 ft & put a nail thru my palm & one in my wrist & dislocated my wrist in the process. Put me out a couple of weeks ...

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« Reply #9 on: September 04, 2006, 07:35:47 PM »
Amanda,


On my Mac Powerbook I can see them fine by clicking them from the user's files links but they don't (and didn't) show up in the original story.  I tried them in both Safari and Firefox browsers.


I still love my Mac though!  ;-)

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Re: Mac In Use, CATION. Files attached! Disturbing
« Reply #10 on: September 04, 2006, 09:09:47 PM »
Roger--google up dyndns

they allow dynamic IP's to look like static.

There's others around too.

I'm just more familar with DynDns and it's free to boot.

I used to use them when I "allowed" public access to my home computer(s)/webserver  here.

Too much trouble with bandwidth being used (attempts, etc.) from the nitwits that inhabit the net.

I was safe enough--just didn't like reading the Apache, security, etc logs for all the MS exploits that came along. (use the Apache "redirect" thing to send them to msn.com when they ask for 'scripts"--that's funny!)

Linux and 4 firewalls were enough to feel safe along with daily sweeping, snooping, etc.

If ya do fire up a "server"--be prepared for stuff to come along.

There are a couple of Mac exploits floating around the net now.

Ain't no such thing as a bulletproof OS or firewall strong enough for forever.

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« Reply #11 on: September 05, 2006, 01:04:05 AM »
I have the feeling that this thread is in response to a post I (and a few others) made on another thread.  I finally resorted to the expedient of going through the poster's files, downloading and renaming the images so i could view them.  Not an optimal solution in today's malware environment. . . .


the point (that I am finally getting to) is that many people here would never have figured out how to view those images at all.


there's no call to be snippy over who uses what style of computer. . . . problems with computers most often boil down to excessive operator headspace.


(I drive a mac and a PC at work, and a PC at home. I learned assembly on an apple II+. . . and pascal on a pc-xT. apple DOES make good image processing machines. . . . though most of that is a function of the OS and the software. . . . and I love OSx. But when I want to do an engineering drawing or a 3-D model that can be sent to a stereo Lithography machine, I don't get many choices in the Mac world. [I have one app that proports to do both, but the command set is far from what I'm used to. . . even though it's an update of a buggy OLD mac application with which I am very familiar.

Maybe things will change with the Intel processors?  the switch to IBM-derived hardware caused a lot of compatibility angst {and much teeth gnashing from the faithful}, but didn't help my software availability problem, so forgive me if I'm not sanguine.]

 So, anyway,  I get to have a foot in both camps.  And, being 'cheap' by genetics as well as inclination, I find that I can homebrew/update a PC cheaper and easier than I can a mac. . .  especially as I usually already have an OS from the last (much slower) machine.  In addition, the price of macs scares off many with 'similar genetics' to mine, so the average home computer user is going to struggle with the foibles of the wintel platform.  In addition, the explosion of home computing means that many people here, through no fault of their own, will not have the experience to correct the problem and get on with their lives.)


Sorry to hear about your hand/arm. . .  I've had a nail all the way out the top of my boot from a simliar experience. . .


Here's hoping for a speedy recovery.


-Dan

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« Reply #12 on: September 05, 2006, 01:09:15 AM »
oops. . .maybe if I'd learn to READ dates. . .


it's still too bad about the arm.


here's wishing for more clutter, instead.


-Dan

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« Reply #13 on: September 05, 2006, 01:35:29 AM »
OK.


I can understand now how Mac users can upload images with no .jpg extension and not see that it's a problem.


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« Reply #14 on: September 05, 2006, 03:48:53 AM »
I use DynDns for my webserver and it works great. I also think macs are much easier to use.
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« Reply #15 on: September 05, 2006, 01:26:19 PM »



















You'll notice these files will load real fast because they are now .gif extended files. Not only can I open them but here they are in a completely different format and way small pixelwise. These shouldn't bog down th system.


I have the ones I downloaded in the virgin state if requested I will send to my files as full sized jpg.


I was poorly trying to express humor about the whole thing! Sorry.  I started talkin' about the Mac thing in jest and just wanted to counter that in some serious defense of my favorite OS. I still predict there will soon be a time when any newer PC will be able to run Mac OS natively on their machines. Give it (OSX) a couple more interations.


That left wrist getting shattered really screws with both typing and other key commands that are in my muscle memory. I used to be able to pick a little axe or banjo, but no more. On a PC keyboard the most common commands, cut and paste for example, are really awkward and hurt. That's one reason I like the Mac, the small little difference there alone.


Mac's nor nay other platform or OS is IT. I mean they're all obsolete as soon as they fire up out of the box! (as is the damned OS!) It's the best scam since cars. Change 'em every day if you can!! See what I mean?


I started this here in the diary section to not snipe someones else's thread. I had no comment on the issue there out of respect. Yes, I know, take your grain of salt now. :-)


Amanda,

TA DAH! Got graphics issues? The Dr. is in. :-)


Steve,

Nope, save up a few coins and buy an iBook and max out the ram! You won't be sorry and you won't get a pig. My Mother-in-Law has a new one (4 months old) and it rocks! There are deals out there.


Anyway, let the war be faught, but only by those with the spirit for battle. I am niether in the mood nor getting that way any time soon.


I'm just sayin', PC users outta take a new look at a Mac. Times have indeed changed with the Unix BSD underwear of the Mac OS 10.2 and newer.


Peace...

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Re: Mac In Use, CATION. Files attached! Disturbing
« Reply #16 on: September 05, 2006, 01:53:12 PM »
Steve,


RE 135A output.


I did that for about 10 seconds as a test. The black smoke started to boil and the rpms dropped so I backed off the rheostat and let the little engine cool down. No, I will hardly ever push it past 80 amps, and that's when I know what's going on with the battery bank.  I just had to see what it would do. I ran it up to 90A  for about 30 seconds. I tried to go up 5A steps to see where it stop running right. At 120A it started to complain a little. At 135A is where it was too much. I's say the max cool weather output would be about 105A. That would have to be in response  to a serious load on the btteries at the same time. I have 1320AH 12V in 14 6V golf carts. I treat them like gold. They were way low, <11.5V, when I did that. At 80A the little engine just hums and puffs no smoke. I figure @ 60A I can get 8hrs run time per gallon. During a hot summer night that means a constant AC source, a big deal in Arkansas! If I go Pepa's route and make my own fuel I can do this for way cheaper, maintiance included, that grid power. Put that together with the next 500W of PV's we hope to have before next summer and the engine need goes down a lot.


If I can beg borrow or steal a digital camera I'm gonna post some picture of my little projects up here in the Ozarks. Yes there are some hillbilly contraptions that will leave you laughing, or crying, but rarely indifferent! :-)

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« Reply #17 on: September 05, 2006, 03:08:02 PM »
I use no-ip, an alternative to dyndns, and have done for some time. Youll notice the website in my profile is a no-ip address.
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Re: Mac In Use, CATION. Files attached! Disturbing
« Reply #18 on: September 06, 2006, 03:08:37 AM »
hi roger, i picked up another hundred plus gal of clean used vegy oil yesterday, if you were closer i would give you some. where are you in arkansas. i built the hot springs shopping mall back when your governer was running for president, and won. it is a beautiful state and hot springs is about twenty hours away from me in sc. leased a house in hot springs for about a year while the project was under construction, almost talked myself into buying but did not like your mountains and snow at the same time, everything there is up or down. pepa
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CATION. Files attached!
« Reply #19 on: September 06, 2006, 05:19:08 PM »



With All the talk about different OSes and such I thought I would add what I consider best 'puter ever built.;-))


I have resized the pic and hopefully it is small enough to load up.

Older computer and I am currently VNC'ed into it across VPNs so Please!!forgive :--

Bruce

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« Reply #20 on: September 06, 2006, 07:42:08 PM »
BruceS,


Awh shucks, I've been a fool. OF course this is the best example of analoge computing I've seen in many years!


RogerAS

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« Reply #21 on: September 07, 2006, 11:01:39 AM »
Roger;

  Good to see /read your link is stable now.

I was worried the pic was too big and after I got back to a processor that had enough umph to do anything, I pulled the pic and saw that it was over the 100k limit, so I'm happy the editors had a good laugh too and left 'er up.


How goes the gen setup?

Have you taken the dive into using Bio-diesel yet?


Cheers

Bruce S

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Re: Mac In Use, CATION. Files attached! Disturbing
« Reply #22 on: October 19, 2006, 01:16:05 PM »
Pepa,


Sorry for the late replay.


I'd take the oil. I'm havin trouble finding a source.


I'm in Stone county, 15 miles east of Mountain View on Bob Davis Mountain. Ozark heartland. You outta see up and down. There's a 300'+ drop in elevation on my 40 acre plot!

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