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soyer38301

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Another Battery Question
« on: August 25, 2008, 04:13:39 PM »
I was at our local Big-R on Saturday looking at tractor batteries. I noticed that none of them had amp hours listed. Is there a way to calculate this from the information on most "standard" batteries?


Has anyone used the heavy tractor batteries in a bank? How did it work out?


From what I have seen in the forum 6V is better than 12V batteries from a amp hour standpoint? Or am I misreading?


Thanks in advance.

Scott

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Flux

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Re: Another Battery Question
« Reply #1 on: August 25, 2008, 11:17:27 AM »
I assume you are in N America. Here in the UK starter batteries generally are given an Ah rating and usually the newer ones also have cranking amps and sometimes CCA.


I think generally in N America the Ah figure is not generally given for starter batteries.


No form of starter battery is really going to perform well in place of a deep cycle battery. A starter battery will actually give its Ah rating ( if you know how it was rated) but it won't stand many cycles to 80% discharge.


In general the 6v batteries tend to be higher capacity than 12v ones, it's just a physical issue that large capacity batteries are heavy, the larger ones are built for 6v to keep the weight manageable and you use 2 in series for 12v.


In general starter batteries are a poor choice and unless there is some obvious reason to use them then it doesn't seem a good idea. If they are cheap enough then it may be cost effective to accept a short life. I have also to admit that the best quality starter battery may actually give better results than a crap deep cycle one of the same rating. Often cost and weight is a better indicator than the crap on the label.


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soyer38301

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Re: Another Battery Question
« Reply #2 on: August 26, 2008, 07:35:16 AM »
Thanks. The reason I was looking at them in earnest is they were only about 45.00 each...


But it does answer my question on the 6 vs 12 issue -- I would just need more of them for a 24V system.


As it turns out I may  be looking at a 12V system to start with.


Thanks again.

Scott

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soyer38301

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Re: Another Battery Question
« Reply #3 on: August 26, 2008, 07:35:53 AM »
And yes I am in the US..
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Re: Another Battery Question
« Reply #4 on: August 26, 2008, 10:28:12 AM »
HEy,


Look around for golf cart batteries. About the same price but much better batteries. Try Sam's Club.

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soyer38301

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Re: Another Battery Question
« Reply #5 on: August 26, 2008, 12:25:06 PM »
Yes I have done that. I asked my Dad to look since he is in a city that has a Sam's -- 66.00 each.
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Re: Another Battery Question
« Reply #6 on: August 28, 2008, 04:34:57 PM »
The Interstate battery dealer was using this formula:


Ah = CCA * 0.19


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Re: Another Battery Question
« Reply #7 on: August 30, 2008, 05:11:27 AM »
Doesn't work like that or my 590CCA battery would be 110Ah... Its not, its rated 60Ah on the label.


You cannot work out Ah from CCA, ever. I have a 7Ah lead acid battery capable of 300CCA... The formula just doesn't work.

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Re: Another Battery Question
« Reply #8 on: September 12, 2008, 01:10:07 PM »
I bought an Interstate battery that was rated only in CCA and I asked the Interstate dealer how does he know the Ah rating. He invited me to look on the counter where there was this formula printed with 2 inches letters: Ah = CCA * 0.19


It made sense to me at that time to convert it like that, but, maybe you are also right. Maybe that formula is right for "his" batteries? only for the type of deep cycle batteries he is selling?


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