Author Topic: facing panels East & West as well as South to catch morning and evening sun  (Read 3377 times)

0 Members and 1 Guest are viewing this topic.

sunbelt57

  • Jr. Member
  • **
  • Posts: 59
I have (30) flexible panels (PVL-128 from Uni-Solar). They are 18' long and 15.5" wide. I have (5) stands which will hold six each. I was planning on facing them all South. I read somewhere on this site that someone had some of their panels facing East and West to catch the sun in the morning and evening. I found a sizing tool on the midnight solar site which tells you how to wire your panels according to the specs of the panels and which converter you are using. I'm using a midnight classic lite 150 for 48v. My question is: Should I have the panels with no sun disconnected depending on what time of the day it is and change the wiring configuration accordingly? Or should I just face them all South and have them all on all the time? Or can I have the ones with no sun on too?

GaryGary

  • Sr. Member
  • ****
  • Posts: 411
    • Build-It-Solar
Hi,
You will collect more total energy facing them all south.

You can use PVWatts to compare the output for east, west and south facing arrays.

Gary

Frank S

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 1901
  • Country: us
  • Home with a view of Double mountain
A few here with larger arrays have theirs set up 15/60/25%  This captures some early morning and late afternoon that is otherwise lost the east facing panels will continue to collect at a reduced rate until about 1 PM the west facing panels will start to pickup around noon South facing will begin to receive around 10AM and continue until around 5PM.
 My small 1.1KW array is set up on a pole so I can rotate it manually At night I set it east that around 10AM I turn it SE then S then SW then W.  I find that on a full sun day doing this I can get 600 AH about 7.2KWH  I normally get 550 AH or 6.6 KWH average if we leave in the mornings and are going to be gone all day I set it South before we leave on those days we get 350 AH or 4.2 KWH this is not enough to bring the bank to full charge for the night.
 NOTE these are not scientific reading just numbers taken directly from my PWM charge controller.
 Amp hours to KWH are done Via this link
 http://lazycackle.com/Convert_from_Ah_to_KWh___Online_Calculator.html
I live so far outside of the box, when I die they will stretch my carcass over the coffin

vtpeaknik

  • Full Member
  • ***
  • Posts: 136
  • Country: us
Sometimes the total (annual) energy harvestable is not the important criterion.  On a sunny day in summer you are likely to have excess energy, which is blocked by the controller from reaching the batteries.  OTOH in midwinter, or cloudy days, or when there is snow on the panels, you may not fully recharge the batteries.  Maximizing the number of days on which the battery gets filled is different from maximum possible energy output.

In my case I started out with 360 watts (two panels) mounted with a fixed orientation at about 45 degrees from vertical (to fit my latitude) and facing about South-SW (to fit the roof).  A few years later I added another 410 watts (two more panels), but by then the price of panels dropped a lot, and setting up a full mounting system would have cost about as much as the panels themselves.  Moreover, in November and December here it tends to be cloudy most of the time, besides the days being short.  On a cloudy day, more so than a sunny day, it is most critical to gather as much energy as possible if the batteries are to be topped off, and a horizontal panel with an open "view" of the cloudy sky can actually collect a bit more energy than one that is facing the (invisible) sun.  And in January the panels are likely to be covered with snow.  (This is primarily a backup power system, if the grid does go down I can climb the roof and remove the snow.)  So I opted to mount the second set of panels flat down on the roof, which has a shallow slope of about 10 degrees, also facing S-SW - far enough from the first set of panels so that they don't shade the second set.

I have the two sets of panels on separate charge controllers.  As it happens, the flat-mounted panels seem to generate more electricity than the 45-degree ones early on summer days when the sun first reaches the roof.

bob golding

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 691
  • Country: gb
seems there are a few options one can try. interesting about the horizontal arrangement. i might try that in the winter. all my panels are at ground level so easy to experiment with different setups.
if i cant fix it i can fix it so it cant be fixed.

Frank S

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 1901
  • Country: us
  • Home with a view of Double mountain
I have noticed even on a mostly sunny day if a cloud passes by and blocks the sun my system will drop to below 11 amp output. anything below 19 amps for our usage is solar negative .
 I imagine that by the time winter or the mostly cloudy days return I had better either have at least another 2 to 3 KW worth of panels installed or be out of this area where I can put up a turbine or find a new source of cheaper bio-diesel
I live so far outside of the box, when I die they will stretch my carcass over the coffin