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Power shed is up
« on: November 18, 2005, 02:43:58 AM »
My carpenter buddy built this for me last week. We decided it would look cool if it matched the house. Dimensions are 8x16', there will be room for my Onan 4500W LP genny, eight Surrette L16s and an Outback VFX3524.



I'm in the process of having a steel ladder rack welded on top of an old satellite dish mount. I'll put four BP sx170b's on it and put a Redrock tracker on it.



Lastly, I've got a line on some 2 7/8" oilfield pipe which will the tower for my DanB 10' turbine, probably go up 40 feet or so.






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Re: Power shed is up
« Reply #1 on: November 17, 2005, 08:24:22 PM »
Hey Volvo Farmer where are you located? The area looks femiliure?


                    JK TAS Jerry

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« Reply #2 on: November 17, 2005, 09:38:44 PM »
Looks like Colorado or New Mexico.

Where are you?
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« Reply #3 on: November 17, 2005, 10:46:14 PM »
Nice! I especially like the way you made it look like a 'mini' version of your house. Very cool.


Cheers,

Stephen.

 

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Re: Power shed is up
« Reply #4 on: November 18, 2005, 12:14:44 AM »
Yes, that is a nice shed and compliments the house well also.

Actually I know people with a geust house that probably is not as nice as your power shed.


Looking at the land area in the picture I also wonder what part of the country (or world) your in. I have been in most of the USA and that looks somewhat familar, love those mountains in the background too.


Looks like you have a great homestead there.

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« Reply #5 on: November 18, 2005, 06:11:02 AM »
Jim nailed my location. I'm in SW Colorado, 30 miles out of Durango and pretty close to the New Mexico state line.


I could have had some nice views of the La Plata mountians but they're to the north and I chose to hunker my house down into the earth and point it at the sun instead.


Thanks for all the nice comments!

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Re: Power shed is up
« Reply #6 on: November 18, 2005, 08:33:41 AM »
Very nice.


I'm curious why you went with putting it up on blocks rather than pouring a thin slab for it.  Is that perhaps a "building permit vs. no building permit" decision?  I guess in some places sheds don't have to be permitted, but its not a shed if it is "permanently" attached to the ground.


Or was there some other consideration that led you in that direction?


Also, I'm curious about the big coil of yellow tubing.  Is that a conduit to go between the house and the shed?


thanks,

jp

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« Reply #7 on: November 18, 2005, 09:21:13 AM »
how is your passive solar on your house working? In your area, you should have great solar exposure most of the year.
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« Reply #8 on: November 18, 2005, 05:19:17 PM »
Concrete blocks = laying around...free. Concrete slab = almost 2 yards of concrete... probably $250 delivered + rebar + time to level ground and set forms. We have frost around here too and it's not generally a good idea to build on a slab alone.. So to do it right, I would have needed to excavate and pour a footer about 30" deep. I think you see where I'm going with this.


The yellow pipe is for underground gas line, I have an LP generator going in there. But you gave me a good idea... if the electrical inspector will go for it:-)

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« Reply #9 on: November 18, 2005, 05:25:55 PM »
I'll have to wait till next year to find out. There's not a shred of insulation or drywall in that house yet. I'm going to pour 1.5" of concrete over the OSB for the upsatairs floor. I'm hoping the thermal mass will soak up some sun in the winter.
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« Reply #10 on: November 18, 2005, 10:46:35 PM »
Electrical inspector my ass. If you're not grid tied with it  screw the inspector. Out of site out of mind er sumpin. National electric code is more of a marketing device (manufacturers and taxes) than any kind of practical or reasonable code to go by. I do everything possible to AVOID inspectors.
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« Reply #11 on: November 19, 2005, 03:26:42 AM »
I think I differ with your assessment of the NEC.  Many of the rules and calculations laid down therein are actually for fire prevention, and/or end-user safety and convienience.

too many wires carrying current too close together is bad.  wires poorly protected from nails, screws and water are bad.  wired carrying too much current are bad.  switches that operate in unexpected ways are annoying and dangerous.  extension cords that are too long or overloaded are bad.  Outlets that look grounded but aren't are dangerous to people and equipment.  outlets that are too far apart are annoying.  circuits that are wired with non-standard color codes can kill a DIYer or tradesman who is expecting things to comply with accepted and codified practice.

These are the things that the NEC seeks to prevent.  even if there were no inspector, I'd wire to code just so I don't kill myself in 20 years when I've forgotten what I built in the first place and needed to repair or modify something.


Too, if you're not to code, and you have a fire or a shock, the claims adjustor is going to look at the report, smirk at you and tear up the check and your policy with great relish.


that said, a sufficiently large plastic gas line would probably be a good conduit.  the UL, the fire marshal and the inspector will probably disagree on a 'standards' basis, but the basics are there;  it's water tight and rated for burial, and even has a nice color for contrast with soil.


-Dan

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Re: Power shed is up
« Reply #12 on: November 19, 2005, 05:41:35 PM »
I for one have to agree with Dan, while it is sometimes dificult to fully complie (for DIY people) with code, an understanding of and the reason for is important. This understanding allows one to make an informed judgment of what corners to cut, should one choose.


Most changes to code are brought about by investigations into "incidents", much reading can be found here.....

http://www.sandia.gov/pv/docs/John_Wiles_Code_Corner.htm


And I wish my power shed looked that good.


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« Reply #13 on: November 19, 2005, 08:15:03 PM »
I'll go with Dan too. 99.9% of the time.

(But I still don't understand why, here, I can't use cable rated 660V, 20A, underground, and sunlight resistant... for 12V at 1A)

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« Reply #14 on: November 21, 2005, 01:45:10 AM »
I have to agree that there are plenty of head-scratchers in the NEC-- and there are places where you can obey the letter of the code and still have a scary situation.

And there are places that the informed DIYer can bend the code pretty severely without actually endangering anyone or putting equipment at risk. . . particularly in that grey zone that RE seems to occupy at the moment.


(there's probably a rant forthcoming from me about that. . .)


-Dan

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« Reply #15 on: November 21, 2005, 03:02:59 AM »
It's like that with many things, not just code. E.g. traffic laws. Can think of a few situations where our very plenty traffic rules/laws can't prevent an accident. I.e., everyone is within the law, did nothing wrong, but still there's an accident...


Common sense and experience/workmanship still have some value left.


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