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snuffy

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9ft low wind machine
« on: May 01, 2006, 03:25:30 AM »
Story of my 9ft, 4 bladed, dual rotor, 12volt, wind genny for low winds.  

Summer winds average  8-12 mph during the day.  Winter wind averages 6 mph with occasional gusts to 30.  I figure with a 4 bladed prop I can get lower start up and maybe get my cutin around 120-130rpm.


My magnets are wedges 1.57" x .78" x 2" and are only 3/16 thick in a 12-9 configuration.  JB welded to the 10" Volvo rotor and a 12" cement cutting blade.  I plan no casting on the rotors.








Coils are 100 turns of 18awg mag wire and I am bringing all 6 ends down the tower .

The stator is cast in Bondo fiberglass resin in a fiberglass sandwich.

This shows it only 1/2 full.




7 inch offset for furling and tail mount is 45 degrees over and 20 degrees back.




Tail shaft is steel square tubing 5 ft long with a 5 sq ft aluminum "feather" bolted on.

I hope to set it to start to furl about 20-25 mph.  




All bolts are stainless steel on the spindle and I can detect no cogging at all.

At 120 rpm during testing I measured about 13 vdc using Jerry rigged 3 phase wiring open circuit. (3/16 spacing )

I'll have all 6 leads to test with once it's flying so I can determine the best configuration for my conditions.  

I got a bunch of 6amp diode bridges cheap so I am leaning toward the Jerry rigged because I will see less current through each bridge.  I can parallel up a bunch and keep it in the safe range I hope.

Here is how I drove it at 120 rpm for testing.




This is a previous 4 bladed (3 ft) prop and I plan to copy it for the 9 ft one.  This went together easy and was a snap to balance.   9ft one will probably be made of laminated cedar.  




 It now flies (with a 7 watt  stepper generator) where the 9 ft genny will go.  

On a 20 ft aluminum antenna mast mounted 16 ft up on my shop.

(Anemometer is a bike computer, works great)

Of course the big one will have guys on it.  




I want to thank all the members of this board for the testing and trials they did so I didn't have to do  nearly as much.  Keep it coming.

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TomW

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Re: 9ft low wind machine
« Reply #1 on: May 01, 2006, 06:47:18 AM »
snuffy;


If you aren't careful there you will end up with a nice machine!


Thanks for sharing. I always love seeing folks that build these things posting about them.


Best of luck.


Cheers.


TomW

« Last Edit: May 01, 2006, 06:47:18 AM by TomW »

Tom in NH

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Re: 9ft low wind machine
« Reply #2 on: May 01, 2006, 09:10:09 PM »
Nice work Snuffy. What to ya figure your max current will be, given the wire, turns, and magnets you used? --tom
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snuffy

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Re: 9ft low wind machine
« Reply #3 on: May 01, 2006, 10:14:00 PM »
Hi Tom

I am hoping to get around 40 amps into 12v.  I don't have a lot of wind to work with.  

It's really patterned after some of the early Otherpower dual rotors but I am going to put another blade on the prop for low wind capture.  No one seems to use 4 bladed very much.  Wonder why?

I don't really have any good use for the juice yet so I will probably have to make heat with most of what I get anyway.  Perhaps a yard light so no one will walk off with my genny.  This project is mostly for entertainment.  Like you I will likely play with some vawt techniques when (if)this is running good.
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Re: 9ft low wind machine
« Reply #4 on: May 02, 2006, 06:06:02 AM »
A 4 blade is harder to get balanced than a 3 or 5 blade, at least for me.

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Re: 9ft low wind machine
« Reply #5 on: May 02, 2006, 06:45:58 AM »
snuffy;




 No one seems to use 4 bladed very much.  Wonder why?


You might google search the board for "yaw shudder". Any time you have an even # of blades this can be a problem.


Cheers.


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« Last Edit: May 02, 2006, 06:45:58 AM by TomW »

snuffy

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Re: 9ft low wind machine
« Reply #6 on: May 02, 2006, 09:56:05 AM »
I searched for "yaw shudder" and see a lot of reference to 2 bladed but none for 4 bladed.  I understand the problem with 2 bladed but I am less convinced on 4 bladed.  My little 3 ft one in the pics runs smooth as pudding.  I don't have a lot of turbulence so maybe I'm just lucky.  I also had no trouble at all balancing it as long as the blades are made from one long piece with the axle in the center. I think I will continue and if it fails it can be a topic for discussion.


Thanks

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Re: 9ft low wind machine
« Reply #7 on: February 04, 2007, 12:29:50 PM »
Snuffy,

It's been awhile so I'm curious as to you results.  Getting ready to start on my 2.4 m and looking at all the posts!


Very nice work!

Cheers,

Hos

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