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WXYZCIENCE

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Blue Foam
« on: November 16, 2006, 05:43:48 AM »
We tried the blue construction foam on the new machine. Cut three blanks and setup the clamps to hold the foam square. Cut the set in about fifteen minutes.











Now to do some tests on resins and such.
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Re: Blue Foam
« Reply #1 on: November 16, 2006, 01:38:35 AM »
Joe use west systems epoxy or something similar..

i tried polyester resin , it has styrene in it and that is what foam is made out of, so it turns the foam to mush

epoxy is best :)
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Re: Blue Foam
« Reply #2 on: November 16, 2006, 01:40:15 AM »
they are looking nice by the way !!
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Re: Blue Foam
« Reply #3 on: November 16, 2006, 10:02:03 AM »
What are the dimention limitations of your machine?


Also, have you tried the pink const. foam yet?

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Re: Blue Foam
« Reply #4 on: November 16, 2006, 12:29:27 PM »
I can second Will's experience with the laminating resin.  Use epoxy; the polyester dissolves the foam.


Have you thought ahead to the layering of fiberglass and root attachment yet?

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other foam?
« Reply #5 on: November 16, 2006, 03:39:52 PM »
Bravo!!


With the ability to shape this foam as you do, and with such precise repeatability, you could "tune" these blades for various AWS regions.


Oh, to dream....

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"Careful, you'll put your eye out with that! >:-("


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Opp,s sorry. Marketing has gotten to me already. I'm weak. I see it I want it.;_)


Try what works, and try again, until you get a really great blade.


Test the binding agent against a scrap of the foam. A very small test sample will reveal compatability issues. Surely it doesn't cost too much for the raw material. Is machine time an issue?


Don't experimental aircraft builders use I high density version of this same foam, or is that polyurethane? Whichever, I'd say yer well on yer way. If Scaled Composites can put someone into low earth space with similar technology then windturbine blades can be built using similar methods and materials. Cost is another issue. High quality foam, and binders, and fabrics, for aircraft use is probably not cheap, but the glues and technology is proven stuff, and that makes it a tossup deal.


Could you CNC a negative for a split mold of said blade profile? Do you see what I mean? A negative cavity could accept injected foam or fill the preassembled 1/2's of a composite shell/skin.  Maybe even allow foam/skin to interactively cure into the form of the blade with the shell in one setp. It seems molding would be faster than milling each core. But I haven't a clue.


Ah, quality material crafted into a higher state of use. The Zen of melting foam.

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Re: Blue Foam
« Reply #6 on: November 16, 2006, 07:28:17 PM »
The pink (Owens Corning?) is the same as the blue (Dow). Just different brands.
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Re: Blue Foam
« Reply #7 on: November 16, 2006, 08:02:27 PM »
sort of the same , but the blue stuff tapers off at the edges , where the pink ( that i saw) did not.
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