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30 seconds of your time please - Ben (gotwind)
« on: April 28, 2007, 07:13:36 PM »
I am still getting reports of trojan viruses on my gotwind.org site. They are totally untrue and unjustified.


I can assure you there is no virus danger, it was the visitor counter triggering some, over paranoid anti virus programs.


I have removed the counter now, please post here if anyone experiences similar problems.

http://www.gotwind.org/index.htm


Appreciated,

Thanks

Ben

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Re: 30 seconds of your time please - Ben (gotwind)
« Reply #1 on: April 28, 2007, 05:28:03 PM »
Cool site! Clean of trojan horses and viruses by the way.
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Re: 30 seconds of your time please - Ben (gotwind)
« Reply #2 on: April 28, 2007, 08:40:53 PM »
Ben:


If you have links indicated there and those are "sick", then you will get a report as "sick" and "contagious".


The only way is to eliminate all links in your page, or write them in a way that the reader has to glue the links parts to produce a link, and explain why you are doing those partitions.


Nando

« Last Edit: April 28, 2007, 08:40:53 PM by Nando »

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Re: 30 seconds of your time please - Ben (gotwind)
« Reply #3 on: April 28, 2007, 10:52:37 PM »
Nando;



Ben:


If you have links indicated there and those are "sick", then you will get a report as "sick" and "contagious".


The only way is to eliminate all links in your page, or write them in a way that the reader has to glue the links parts to produce a link, and explain why you are doing those partitions.


Uh, can you translate that into a bit more understandable language?


Gluing links?


Why eliminate links? They seem to be a necessary way to move folks through your site.


I am "fairly" computer savvy and these comments left me completely confused.


The first part is a bit convoluted but I "think" you mean that if your site links to an infected site your site will be tagged as viral?


Sorry, I guess a language barrier is getting in the way of my understanding what you are trying to say?


I use Macs so virii are of no importance or concern to me.


I sure feel sorry for those forced [or conned] into using MicroSoft.


Cheers.


TomW


Cheers.


TomW

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Re: 30 seconds of your time please - Ben (gotwind)
« Reply #4 on: April 28, 2007, 11:18:23 PM »
Ben, you site is fine, dont worry about it. I've had similar complaints about my site (www.thebackshed.com) in the past and they were total rubbish. People tend to jump the gun and point the finger if a virus or spy filter pops up a warning without actually looking at the details of the warning. One person was even looking at the wrong web site, then accused me of viruses, when in fact it was another web site completely.


Tom, I use Macs so virii are of no importance or concern to me.

Well you should type in the words "apple" and "virus" into google, might change you mind. I sure feel sorry for those forced [or conned] into using MicroSoft. You forgot to mention those people who actually want to do a days work without spending half the day struggling with a one button mouse, writing scripts to do simple tasks, or recompiling the kernel. I use both Linux and Microsoft daily, Linux is powerfull but Microsoft is faster for the day to day stuff.


Seriously folks, Linux, Apple, Windows, whatever, unless its up to date and patched,  its vulnerable. Lets drop the whining about what OS is better or worse and get back to windmills.


Glenn


PS, seriously, look up apple virus in google, it surprised me!

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Re: 30 seconds of your time please - Ben (gotwind)
« Reply #5 on: April 28, 2007, 11:21:45 PM »
gizmo;


OK, now look up the 176 billion virii for M$.


I think I will stay where I am.


T

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Re: 30 seconds of your time please - Ben (gotwind)
« Reply #6 on: April 28, 2007, 11:36:56 PM »
Whoa there, Glenn...


While a virus on Mac is POSSIBLE, they are extreemely rare. I use mostly FreeBSD machines, but have a mac powerbook on my desk too. My wife has been using high end Mac boxes and BSD boxes of various varieties side-by-side for over a decade for 3d graphics, animation etc. My daughter, now in high school, also uses mac and Unix, and has done for most of her life.


None of us use antivirus products on these machines, and never have. We are all directly connected, 24/7, on 6 megabit, low-latency links, and none of the machines have ever had an issue.


That said, in the office we "have to" run windoze on the public access machines. They are loaded up to the back teeth with anti-spyware, anti-virus, anti-malware, anti-trojan software up the wazoo, yet they STILL need reformatted and reloaded periodically because something "gets through".


I agree, use what suits, but please, don't "bag out" anything thats not microsoft just because its not your personal favourite.


As you say, lets leave that stuff for other (more appropriate) forums, and concentrate on the "relevant" stuff that brings us all together here.

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Re: 30 seconds of your time please - Ben (gotwind)
« Reply #7 on: April 29, 2007, 03:20:53 AM »
All good points, but thats not what I'm trying to say. Dont get me wrong, I like Linux and wished I could convert everyone at my workplace to Linux, but I'm having enough problems convincing them to use Open Office instead of MS Office, its just not going to happen, people dont like change. Most of the PC's out there are running MS Windows, its won the battle. It may not be the best os, but its here to stay, and this means most of the productive software packages are designed for Windows. We use some very specific software at my workplace, eg Sigmanest at $7000 per seat, and there isnt a linux version. We do use Linux for a couple of things its great at, the fire wall and proxy server. And I even have a laptop here with Mandrake installed just to play around with.

My point is every time some one like poor old Ben here makes a statement about a virus or lack there of, the Linux or Apple guys jump up and down about crappy old Windows. Its just not productive and only confuses the issue. Just because someone runs Windows doesn't mean they will catch a virus. If the fieldlines site goes offline for a few hours the Windows users dont jump up and rubbish the Linux Apache web server do they?

Whining about windows isnt going to make it go away, instead lets work the problem. If Ben has problems with someone reporting a virus from his site, lets give him some constructive help, dont just say it wont affect me because I run a different OS, thats not helping Ben at all is it.


Linux,Apple,Windows all rule OK


Glenn

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Re: 30 seconds of your time please - Ben (gotwind)
« Reply #8 on: April 29, 2007, 05:33:56 AM »
Ben:


If an anti-virus company looks the "links" of a web page a if any is of low security, is classified as a "gateway" for "spam".


Now, if a Web page has "links" to other web pages, and if a single one of those "links" is "Non-secured" in the other web page, the anti-virus company will declare the initial web page as "Non-secured".


A solution is to read the web pages, navigate around the page but do not open those "links".


Nando

« Last Edit: April 29, 2007, 05:33:56 AM by Nando »