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snuffy

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Finally seeing spots
« on: December 22, 2007, 09:39:09 PM »
Finally got my 3 meter dual rotor flying.  Here are some pics of assembling it prior to raising.  





This shows the rain shield and tail keeper.  We get months of rain w/little wind.  The rain shield should help keep stuff from getting between the rotors and stator too.  





For final balance I used the pendulum method.  2 1/2 oz. about 7 inches from center was enough.  I find this 4 blader easy to balance.  I poured a lead weight around a bolt on an aluminum angle for the weight.





Here is the pendulum mounted to one of the main blade bolts.  I decided to leave this in place when I raised it to prove my balance.  I may make it part of the blades later, (or not).  I don't think it will bother the efficency of the blade.





I pull this tilt up with my tractor although it pulls very easy.  It is a double block to reduce the pull.  I think my lawn mower would pull it up but the brakes on it are not good enough to hold it.


It's 40 ft. when erected.  The effective height is more due to the land behind the shop falling off about another 20 ft. to the creek.





I am a little disappointed in the output.  The most I have seen is 3.3 amps into 26 vdc.  The cutin speed is right where I wanted it at 130 rpm with a wind spd of 7 mph.  I am pleased with the low wind rpm.  I noticed that it didn't run true to the wind direction.  I discovered my tower top isn't staight up so the long offset (6 3/4 in) keeps it slightly turned out of the south wind.


When the shop roof dries up again I will go up and straighten it up.  i might also need to make my tail area a little larger.


It furls at about 16 mph and 205 rpm.  Might get more rpm when it is headed into the wind.  I use bike computers for both wind speed and rpm.  They seem to work great.


I'm sure glad it's not on my house.  The growl is loud inside the shop.  Sounds great.  There are more details of the genny in my diary for the curious.

 

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blueyonder

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Re: Finally seeing spots
« Reply #1 on: December 22, 2007, 03:38:02 PM »
 hi snuffy great looking mill. and your site couldent be any better so hope you get a lot more power out soon.

  so your mill can growl .????.

  now snuffy can i ask you to post a pic of the family pet.

  or maybe you have made it into sumthing else.
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snuffy

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Re: Finally seeing spots
« Reply #2 on: December 22, 2007, 07:28:31 PM »
Thanks blueyonder. Yep it growls.  It is bolted to the support posts in the shop and the noise it makes isn't really a whine.  Too slow I suppose.  I might have to cut the blades down a little to speed it up.  It was originally designed to be 12vdc wired "Jerry rigged" but the UPS I aquired is 24 vdc.  


I tested it wired in star and it raised the cutin rpm a little but I believe it will work on 24 vdc.  Part of the reason I don't get much output is the weak magnets I used.  Great hindsight huh?  Still great fun and "any" power I get is power I don't have to pay for.

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Re: Finally seeing spots
« Reply #3 on: December 22, 2007, 07:49:44 PM »
"Great hindsight huh?"

Yup.  Making these parts work with those parts.


Joe: Cow.

Melissa: I have to go Julia, we have Cows.

Joe: another cow.

Bill: No, I think that was the same one.

- Twister 1996

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snuffy

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Re: Finally seeing spots
« Reply #4 on: December 22, 2007, 09:21:40 PM »
Ghurd I have your controller on this but I don't think it will ever see a dump condition unless I can bring the rpm up.  So far the battery voltage hasn't been above 27.5 vdc even with 15 mph winds last night.  Another possible unknown is the condition of all the batt's.  They are all recycled from traffic signal ups's (6ea 100 ah). They all measure evenly but . . .
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Re: Finally seeing spots
« Reply #5 on: December 23, 2007, 06:23:08 AM »
 snuffy you missed my point.

 when i said about the family pet. i was thinking you must have a dalmatian(dog)

  i pity any drunken guy going past your mill on a dark night.

  can you imagine he hears a growl looks up and seeing your mill .

  well it might be enough to make the guy go tea-total.

  now its finished all your mill needs now is a bit tlc. good luck mate.
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Re: Finally seeing spots
« Reply #6 on: December 23, 2007, 07:59:28 AM »
The 3.3A is going to take a while to get 600AH (300AH?) of battery over-filled.

Some people believe it will not overcharge at 1% of C, but not me.

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Re: Finally seeing spots
« Reply #7 on: December 23, 2007, 08:09:33 AM »
Spot ?       We named the boy spot the wind generators name is Henry   : )


nice mill


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Having so much fun it should be illegal

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Re: Finally seeing spots
« Reply #8 on: December 23, 2007, 11:37:45 AM »
Off Topic but..


Old F where you located in Oh?


I also found a laptop DC power supply is ideal for powering a foam cutter of SS wire (piano wire)about 40" long.

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Re: Finally seeing spots
« Reply #9 on: December 23, 2007, 06:32:36 PM »
whew..


when I first read the title, I thought..  OH NO!  not another spotted owl and windmill story!

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Re: Finally seeing spots
« Reply #10 on: December 25, 2007, 07:56:28 AM »
 Nice paint job. If your mill is anything like mine I wouldn't make your weight a permanent part of that blade. Mine needs the weight moved to a different spot almost every time I check it's balance. Either moisture gets in or it's still trying to get out? On mine I have also seen a couple of sap bubbles come through the paint, so part of my balance problem is sap too.
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Re: Finally seeing spots
« Reply #11 on: December 26, 2007, 08:53:09 AM »
jmk

Thanks for the  comment and the tip on balance.  Easy enough to keep the balance as is is.  I don't think I need to wory about sap.  The wood for my blades is 15 year old dry deck material that we salvaged when replacing our deck.  However rain moisture getting in is a real possibility.  


BTW I have now seen a peak of 128 watts.  Wind around 17 mph.  

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Re: Finally seeing spots
« Reply #12 on: December 26, 2007, 10:20:42 AM »
If I recall, the gap is past quite a bit what it should be.  Have you considered a new stator?

Maybe 10~15% less turns, thinner, and the increased flux might get the cutin about the same with increase the output?  Just a thought.

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