Hornet, Wind Blue, Mallard.

[Jerry]

I e-mailed these guys for data on there GM car alternator based wind generators.

Hornet has never returned any of the 6 e-mails I've sent them. I don't think they like me?

Hornet does have a chart for there Wind Scorpion low wind unit on there web pade.

I don't like charts. You don't get accuate #s. Hornets chart is a bit blury so theres a plus or minus 50 watts or so with my vision.

It realy doesn't matter with them anyway, there #s are so far outof sight you'd need the Huble telescope to see them anyway.

The only CO. that didn't have the data I wanted was Koolenergytools.com.

All I got from them was some babel that didn't make any sence.

Reason I'm doing all this. I now have a 22 ga. wound Wind Blue stator, a Hornet NEO rotor, Hornet Blades, TLG blades, my blades, 24 volt GM stator and ect.

I want to compair the data I get to the data these guys are offering for there products and see if some combo of the above works a littel better.

The data I got from Wind Blue and Mike at Mallard looks very honest and these guys responded quikly and seem very nice.

Here are the data #s these guys offer for there machines.

                   Hornet

       5   mph    12.5   watts

      10   mph    50     watts

      15   mph   100     watts

      20   mph   200     watts

      25   mph   400     watts

      30   mph   675     watts

                 Wind Blue

       5   mph     5     watts

      10   mph    20     watts

      15   mph    48     watts

      20   mph    77     watts

      25   mph   126     watts

      30   mph   188     watts

                 Mallard

       5   mph    2.5    watts

      10   mph      5    watts

      15   mph     19    watts

      20   mph     38    watts

      25   mph     62    watts

      30   mph     95    watts.

Hornet uses its 61" 6 plastic blades, Wind blue uses a 2 blade aluminum called the Cyclone not sure the diameter and not sure on the Mallard blade either?

I'll look them up?

I made a fast and unaccurate dc ohms measurment of the 3 diferant stators I have the ohms #s for one phase each only.

Stock GM .13 ohms, 24 volt stock GM .27 ohms and the Wind Blue at 2 ohms.

I'll be doing some bench testing a wind testing. Diferant stators, diferant blades, diferant wiring scheems.

Thats all for now.

                   Jerry    

[Jerry]

Wind Blue and Mallard are both 5 ft diameter. I'll assemble a 5ft diameter set of "Jerry BBlades" and compair.

This should be fun. I'm still testing an ECM right now so I'll finish that testing first.

                         Jerry

[Fused]

Hi Jerry,

The wind blue 5 foot single blade is actually 5 feet 4 inch diameter.

After building 15 or more sets of blades for a windblue pma, I realized the 4 extra inches did make a difference in start up.  

Thought Id throw that in.

Good luck!

Fused

[Jerry]

Hey Fused.

Thats a very colorfull colections of blades. Looks as though you've tryed a bunch of diferant types.

What is the best blade set out of that group? And on what genny?

                         Jerry

[Fused]

I made all those blades (except the wood set on far right)for the windblue unit.

I had a hard time giving up on the idea that it "should" work.

Shorter and fatter, or longer and narrower with root and tip angles all different, I could not make usable power with the windblue.

Thanks

Fused

[HaroldCR]

 I would like to ask Jerry a couple of questions. Hope it does not hijack this thread ??

  I am looking at a 24V 150 Amp Leece Neville Automotive Alternator on Ebay. For the price, I could never build a home brew Alternator, like you guys do, down here.

  Have you, Jerry, ever tested a standard Automotive Alternator ?? If so, what were your total findings. I know they require high RPM's to get the amperage. I plan to put Neo Magnets in place of the wound rotor coil, so I don't have to run voltage up the tower to activate the rotor.

  I live in a fairly windy area, and won't need massive amounts of electricity to keep batteries charged.

  What would you GUESS the output might be, if I used the set up, I described.

  Do you think it's possible to get 24V @ 40 amps, in a 18 MPH wind, with the set up I described ?? I'm thinking a large output alternator would not get hot at a low output ??

  A GUESS is all I'm looking for. I can put together a gearbox to increase RPM's. I built a 4 KW wind machine, using a 120-240 volt 2 bearing Alternator, self excited, and ran it through a Browning hollow shaft gearbox. Set the RPM's to around 200 at the 16' prop, and watched the machine put out over 20 amps on each 120V leg, at times, under load. Alternator turned 1800 @ 200 prop RPM's.

 Thanks for any info and suggestions you can offer.  Harold

 

[Jerry]

Hi HaroldCR.

I have no expirience with the Lecce Neville. However I would sugjest you build a 12 ft dual rotor axial flux machine for reliable 1000 watts.

The effert you'd put into a large vehickle alt with gearing up and all would be more problematic the just build a good axial flux machine.

If you can't or don't want to fabricate such a machine part or all the pices are available right here from DanB and company. I think Dans machine is probobly one of the best money can buy if your not going to build it your self.

I'm not to fond of that gearup schemm myself.

I've flown a few car alts with NEOs. But you'll never get 24 volts and 40 amps from them in an 18 mph wind. Maybe a 100 mph wind?

Good luck on what ever way you go.

                   Jerry

[HaroldCR]

 Thanks for the input, Jerry.