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DougT

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Interesting LED conversion
« on: December 07, 2006, 02:06:04 PM »
I found these on the web. It looks like an easy way to get rid of those 12v auto bulbs if they put out the same amount of light. Has anyone tried or heard of these?

http://www.fourwinds-ii.com/ledinterior/ledinterior.htm
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Re: Interesting LED conversion
« Reply #1 on: December 07, 2006, 09:03:01 AM »
It is less than half as bright as an #1156 (~29W) without a reflector.

An #1156 with a reflector is far brighter.

It may be OK for a dome light.

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Re: Interesting LED conversion
« Reply #2 on: December 07, 2006, 10:00:25 AM »
  Lot of interesting stuff like the strip light

http://www.fourwinds-ii.com/ledinterior/ledinterior.htm#strip

 But surely a person could buy white LEDs,a lot

cheaper than that with the 12 volt voltage,

resistors, series, parallel,etc. and after blowing

a couple dozen, could still manage to come out

far ahead. (hope I'm not stepping on someones toes)

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Re: Interesting LED conversion
« Reply #3 on: December 07, 2006, 10:24:36 AM »
Norm;

   I was thinking the same thing. I showed the MR16 set to our "facalities" manager , he told me the cost of those are right on track for the Philips branded hologen ones AND the amount of time it would take for someone to build the stuff up isn't worth it.

He's contacting the website today to see about quntity amounts.

Go figure.

So for us DIYers I'll go with building them myself, it's the satisfaction of building something, stand back and watch it work . Kinda like therapy :==]]


For offices the cost and pre-built means savings.

He fugured the cost versus power saved at the retail price, they'll pay for themselves in 4 months time.


Go figure:-()


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Re: Interesting LED conversion
« Reply #4 on: December 07, 2006, 10:27:03 AM »
I agree Norm.

This might be a good point to offer up my 12 volt 1.2W DIY 9 LED Cluster design, Cost me £2.50 ($5).

http://www.gotwind.org/led_experiments.htm
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« Reply #5 on: December 07, 2006, 10:33:25 AM »
gotwind2

  Nice perf board. Did to run copper on the back side or just "wire wrap" the stuff up.

I would be nice to see this not so close up tho, the middle light is way too bright :-)

Also a pic of it lighting up a given space.

AND you are correct about the cost of 12Vdc CFLs ...


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Re: Interesting LED conversion
« Reply #6 on: December 07, 2006, 03:16:49 PM »
Hi Bruce.

Yes the circuit board is a printed circuit board, I designed and etched onto a board.

It was a college project from years ago - I just fitted 10mm white led's to replace the 5mm ones.

No images of the led cluster design in situ yet, but it does the job - illuminating my tool shed adequately.

Not bad for 1 watt of power :)

The futures bright - the futures led's.
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Re: Interesting LED conversion
« Reply #7 on: December 07, 2006, 06:48:59 PM »
  I'm a little confused, in your post you say

that you got 50 LEDs 1,000 mcd. , but in the

specifications that you linked me to ....it says

10,000 mcd. which seems more reasonable .

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Re: Interesting LED conversion
« Reply #8 on: December 08, 2006, 07:28:42 AM »
You might suggest he get a couple samples first.

Then you can "test" them to see what kind of light, and life they have.

They may need a bit of resistor swapping to get the life they should have.

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Re: Interesting LED conversion
« Reply #9 on: December 08, 2006, 09:50:27 AM »
G-;

   You got that one right on the nose. We talked them into "sending" a couple to do side by side comaparisons and will then put in the order or send them back.


We read off the Phillips box the power info as well as the MR16 type and the guy agreed to send us the MR style that would best fit the need I beleive it was the W30 one.

We'll see what happens.

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Re: Interesting LED conversion
« Reply #10 on: December 08, 2006, 07:12:33 PM »
I checked out  the web site. Seems to be a high price outlet for marine use.

I bought a number of similar led tail lights from superbrightleds.com for almost half the price on that site.  30 led tail light for $15, 12 led for $6. Check it out.

Chris
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Re: Interesting LED conversion
« Reply #11 on: December 09, 2006, 11:41:55 AM »
Ummmm just a thought....but wouldn't it be easier to simply buy a set of the led

Christmas lights for $5-6 bucks at 70 leds...cut off the colored plastic tips and arrange them properly in a frosted 8-10 inch ceiling fixture globe and enjoy the cheap light?
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« Reply #12 on: December 10, 2006, 06:06:21 PM »
Those LEDs are very dim for lighting more than a Christmas tree.

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Re: Interesting LED conversion
« Reply #13 on: December 15, 2006, 08:51:21 AM »
If anyone ever finds a way to get some of the new Cree super bright for less than 3 bucks let me know. I was unable to find them for less than 10 bucks each. They are suppose to be the answer to everything LEDs were not, but at 10 dollars each there is no way to use them cost effectively. I got some 3mm Chinese ones that are suppose to be their answer to the Cree LEDs and they are quite impressive. They put out a very bright light comparable to 14 standard 3mm whites.


i use a flashlights 14 led bulb because it was cheep and mounted on a small board that I got for 4 bucks each. That included the aluminium flashlight and battery holder. Not a bad price as I can use the battery case for another project for a pet outside nightlight. It has one small IC type LED with three tiny LEDs that turn on when jarred. The button batteries last for months and the animals light can be seen for hundreds of feet at night. They blink every time the animal moves for 15 seconds and goes off.


If the animal is moving after 30 seconds it blinks again for 15 seconds. The duty cycle and the blink rate allows for the minimal current draw. They work great, but there are way to many blinking lights for animals out there, but they all have on and off switches. Someone has to turn on the lights before the critter goes out. mine turns on by its self and lasts for months. theirs lasts for a few hours, one day at the max. Not too useful unless you can teach the animal to turn the light on every time it goes out. Anyway, I would love to get my hands on a few of the Cree LEDs, but not for ten bucks a copy. Their specifications are second to none, but I have seen that in LEDs before and wondered how they came up with the numbers when I got to try them myself.


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Re: Interesting LED conversion
« Reply #14 on: December 25, 2006, 06:17:59 AM »
Hi as far as I am aware the XR-E cree led's are still around $5 in quantities of 10,000! The price will drop very quickly once competitors catch up. Or even when their partenors Soul Semiconductor fully release their brighter model.


Although when you compare when driven at 1 watt will give more light than a luxeon K2 driven at more than 3 watts then they are a bargain!


I cant remember the exact price i can get singles for but it is far less than $10 i think more like $6. If you need some ask..


Merry Christmas Everyone


Phil

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Re: Interesting LED conversion
« Reply #15 on: January 28, 2007, 04:54:35 PM »
I just wrote a tutorial on a LED coversion. You might be interested in it. Check my diary to see it. Or go to http://www.fieldlines.com/story/2007/1/28/215243/977
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